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  • intc_daily intc_daily Mar 10, 2013 1:39 PM Flag

    Thoughts on this Samsung article regarding MS Surface

    SAMSUNG: No One Is Buying Microsoft's Surface, Windows 8 Isn't Very Good
    Jay Yarow | Mar. 9, 2013, 9:33 AM

    More bad news for Microsoft and its new operating system, Windows 8.

    The president of Samsung's memory chip division, Jun #$%$-soo, had a lot of negative comments about Microsoft in a meeting with reporters. The Korea Times transcribed his quotes.

    First, he said the obvious: "The global PC industry is steadily shrinking despite the launch of Windows 8."

    Then he added this: "I think the Windows 8 system is no better than the previous Windows Vista platform."

    Vista is considered to be one of the biggest disasters for Microsoft. It's not good for a partner to compare the new Windows to Vista.

    He then added even more: "MS’s rollout of its Windows Surface tablet is seeing lackluster demand ... Meanwhile, previous vigorous pitches by Intel and MS for thinner ultra-books simply failed and I believe that’s mostly because of the less-competitive Windows platform."

    This wouldn't be so bad if it were just one guy talking. But, he's just the latest to pile on. Executives at Asus, Acer, and Fujitsu have all had bad things to say about the state of Windows.

    A big part of the problem is that the PC market is contracting as users buy smartphones and tablets instead of new PCs. Smartphones and tablets don't replace PCs, but they act as good-enough substitutes, negating the need for an immediate PC purchase. If you have an iPad for couch computing, it's okay to have a five-year-old PC for limited heavy computing.

    However, Windows is supposed to solve this problem by working on tablets. If it's not solving the problem, it's bad for Microsoft.

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    • Coming from Samsung, these comments are particularly damaging. Samsung has made a lot of money on Android for the smartphone. If it's seeing great success with Google software and little success with Microsoft software, in the future it's going to put its tablet, and notebook development efforts, towards Google not Microsoft.

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      • Samsung's Memory Chip Division President Hates Windows 8? I can see that. His success at Samsung in the memory division is based on increasing revenue and profits of the memory division. That is tough in a flat PC volume environment. He needs to rationalize what is happening to his division's performance.

        The PC treadmill has been disrupted and it will take some time to settle out and assign winners and losers. I think there are too many players and some consolidation is in the future.

        Last year .....

        Samsung are pushing Intel to launch DDR4 ahead of its 2014 release date
        Apr 17, 2012 7:24 am
        By: Anthony Garreffa
        "Just a couple of weeks ago we were talking about Intel bringing DDR4 into the market by 2014, but Samsung Electronics thinks this is too far away and are trying to talk Intel into launching its DDR4 memory supporting server platforms ahead of the 2014 release dates. Inside sources are saying that Samsung are concerned that making DDR3 chips are now unprofitable due to low prices. "

        At the moment, only Samsung and Hynix Semiconductors have completed the development of DDR4 products and are readying for the transition to the next-generation of memory standards. At the moment, the memory market is quite shaky thanks to the near collapse of one of the biggest manufacturers, Elpida. It's said that the early release of DDR4 should restabilize the market.

        If DDR4 is pushed quicker, it would put Samsung in a very lucrative position, where they'd sit at the top spot in the channel. Memory industry standards body, the JEDEC Solid State Technology Association, is scheduled to publish the DDR4 standard, which is said to bring a big advancement in performance with reduced power consumption when compared to previous generations of memory, sometime in mid-2012.

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