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  • semiconductorguy@rocketmail.com semiconductorguy Mar 29, 2013 8:22 AM Flag

    Intel vs ARM ?

     

    Why is this board obsessed with ARM? ARM is a semiconductor IP company. Intel is a semiconductor company. Apples vs oranges. Why not Intel vs Samsung? Intel vs Qualcomm? Intel vs Marvell?

    Why not cross post the ARM stuff to the ARM board? Because you would get slaughtered over there with your idiotic ARM posts.

    Seriously, don't you folks have anything better to do? Do you think anything you post here changes stock prices? Clearly Wallis Weaver's "Intel at $30" chants have not worked at all.

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    • I threw my Intel powered laptop in the garbage when I bought my Samsung tablet. Adiois Windows #$%$!

    • Looks like Intel TriGate SoC is ahead compared the ARM camps FF.
      The ARM camp always stresses (nowadays) the close cooperation between manufacturing and design from the early stage.
      well looks like Intel just did this
      tapeouts?
      what did the QCOM guy say ?
      20 million transistors compared to the real world of 2 billion transistors?

    • It is because we are tired of continually hearing the idiotic dogma presented by the pro ARM side. It is sort of ike the liberals controlling the main stream media. One needs to vent the truth.
      ARM.s sigular advantage is that ARM provides the only CPU's that everyone can use in their increasingly integrated product designs. If someone wants to design a CPU part they have no choice.
      ANYone with any capability like Apple and QUalcom will actually desing their own CPU's using only the instruction set.
      ARM has historically also been low power only because the they have provided low performance CPU's. Power goes up exponentially with performance. You can not fairly compare powerformance per watt at differnet performance levels.
      Also Computers are used at the user request while phones must ring 24 hours a day. This imposes different reuirement that Intel had to design to.
      Intel has an enormous manufacturing advantage. Don't you think a 50% power advantage and 50 cost advantage will make a differene in the market?
      What is the problem with Smasungs big/little anyway. Seems to be some problems there. Pretty stupid design compared to Intel standards Intel will better control dynamic voltage and frequency in future chips and better optimize performcnce and power without having to have two different CPU's
      Intel can always cluster a number of Atom's on the same ring as their high end CPU's if they need more parrel performance like with their GPU's

      • 1 Reply to johnnelson1205
      • ARM.s sigular advantage is that ARM provides the only CPU's that everyone can use in their increasingly integrated product designs. If someone wants to design a CPU part they have no choice.
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        Not true. Even today you still have options, such as MIPS. If you want to leverage the ISA and the ecosystem for mobile, then ARM is a good choice.

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        ANYone with any capability like Apple and QUalcom will actually desing their own CPU's using only the instruction set.
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        Indeed. Why do you think that is?

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        ARM has historically also been low power only because the they have provided low performance CPU's. Power goes up exponentially with performance. You can not fairly compare powerformance per watt at differnet performance levels.
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        No. ARM's first chips where for high performance PC's/Workstations. The low power profile was an accident rather than by design.

        Yes, you can compare performance/watt across the whole spectrum. From the highest performing server chip to the lowest micro controller that is capable of running your workload.

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        Intel has an enormous manufacturing advantage. Don't you think a 50% power advantage and 50 cost advantage will make a differene in the market?
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        Perhaps, but Intel has to deliver on this manufacturing advantage - and it needs manufacturing advantage as it's SoC's are that much larger . Historically, Intel's LP processes haven't been as good at the foundries.

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        What is the problem with Smasungs big/little anyway. Seems to be some problems there. Pretty stupid design compared to Intel standards Intel will better control dynamic voltage and frequency in future chips and better optimize performcnce and power without having to have two different CPU's
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        Big/Little is a good concept on paper and if it works in the real world then it will have the best power/performance curves of any SoC. It could change the CPU design off future of power constrained devices - if it works:)

    • And one might ask, dont you have anything better to do than read over here?

 
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