Why most of you have this game all wrong with intel.
I make this post to show you that in the end its futile and childish to go after each other regarding intel and fight and b1tch all day long or short.
None of you should love or hate intel. You should all be glad it exists and we are at a point like this now with people divided and the stock going nowhere for years while its valuation is getting cheaper and cheaper and the potential bargain larger and larger.
Stop the fighting and recognize what the situation is;
The way i see it intel is in one of 3 possible cases;
1) Its a company that is facing a transition that will eventually destroy it and collapse its business model and render it a fossil company unable to adapt to a changing world. Then it will go to teens and below 10 and single digits eventually.
2) Its a stock that will experience a further lengthy period of nothing significant going up and down and never making a real move of over 50% from some core avg of the past 10 years call it 20. So 10-30 forever until we die or stop studying/trading/investing in it.
3) Its a company that like ibm or apple took a significant period of nothing happening almost decade plus (same for them look it up) (appl 1988 to 2000 12+ years did nothing) (ibm 1970-1997 28y did nothing) until they finally got it together to enter a new phase accepting for good what needed to be done and forcefully changing the market itself rather than being a victim of it (eg compete with apple etc). Basically the moment intel becomes a player that designs its market and not serve the market of others it will regain a potential for growth and valuation expansion that will easily give it a factor to 5-10 eventually from here.
Now its hard to know what of the 3 is the case. You will all take sides here and i personally take 3 but i will never assign 0 chance to the the other 2 alternatives. Yes they can all 3 prove reasonable outcomes that ignoring completely their possibility will be detrimental.
Whatever you want to choose of 1,2,3 its fine with me. Choose it and study the changes that take place to adapt and even reconsider your choice in the future or find yourself firmly believing it further.
Accept that no matter what is to happen, it wont happen overnight and possibly several years will still be required to decide it.
So recognize that you must choose to trade intel smartly instead of taking sides and hating all others that take different ones.
The ideal thing to do is to create a portfolio that is 50% cash and 25% long intel or 25% short intel and the other 25% is to be used to trade derivatives or shares using technical analysis and fundamental analysis and broad market timing and all kinds of information that can help you be a 60-40% or better predictor (very doable). Remain objective. Intel is giving both buy and sell signals all the time. To remain permanently long or short without adjusting exposure to price changes is idiotic. Choose a core position that reflects your choice of 1,2,3 case and use the rest as cash and as trading capital going long calls or puts (or shares ) depending on the kind of signal you have.
Then close the trades often at profits or sometimes at loss and adjust the portfolio to be again 50-25-25.
So if you have profits over time you will notice that your cash and your position will increase . If you are short you will be able to short more for the core. If you are long you will be buying more shares over time.
Eventually this way even if wrong on the core decision and another case proves true you will not destroy your portfolio. You will increase it even if wrong. Of course if you are right you will increase it much more.
So stop fighting each other and instead exchange information with friendship in mind. Then use that information to trade better. Trade and build longer core positions and see how it works out. All will win that do this and they will be happy even if intel proved them wrong.
If you think you cant time the market 60-40 on the trading signals i suggested then simply ladies and gentlemen you do not have what it takes to have any bloody attitude about the stock or the market and you need to shut up. Get it now why fighting is idiotic and childish???
If you know what the heck you are doing or talking you must recognize that you are capable to spot a bargain or an overbought situation both near term and mid term but also recognize that all 3 of the cases i listed can potentially happen long term and therefore taking only a static long term position and supporting it with endless posts is a very risky gamble and naive choice. Therefore what i proposed is doable if you have what it takes. You create a core based on long term fundamental faith which you continue to re-evaluate and you supply it with more power over time through trading. If you cant trade then you are not good enough to begin with to have a core position and attack others for having opposite ones.
Only someone ignorant thinks they are entitled to attack others on their fundamental stock direction choices to the degree experienced here. Instead learn to interact with each other friendly and debate and collect information to get better at trading and safer in your core choice.