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  • t_e_n_k_a_y t_e_n_k_a_y Apr 18, 2013 4:36 PM Flag

    Will the workings of Intel's future chips be impenetrable?

    That's what Paul Otellini hinted at the Bernstein Analyst Meeting awhile back. That the geometries are so small, dense and intricate, that any attempt by a competitor to deconstruct a chip will destroy it in the process.

    Quote from the CEO: "And reverse engineering through destructive analysis was very much possible, You could sort of figure it out. You get to the dimensions that we are at today, and reverse engineering destroys the part in a way that you can't analyze it. So, you know there's Hafnium in there, but you have no idea how we use it, what the proportions are. So, it's becoming more difficult for everybody to, sort of, ride the coattails, either as equipment manufacturers or as device manufacturers."

    Don't know if he means 22nm or 14nm. Don't know how much weight to put on this statement but if true it seems like it would be a gamechanger. From what I've seen in several sectors of the business world, so many outfits would be out-of-luck if they couldn't imitate the sector leader. Imitation is a way for a company to cheaply excel beyond its native capabilities.

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    • "So, you know there's Hafnium in there, but you have no idea how we use it, what the proportions are. "

      He could have used "they" instead of "you"
      He's refering to HKMG ( Hafnium = metal) and TSMC - it took TSMC 4 years to figure it out.
      The majority of TSMC 28nm is still not HKMG

    • aulus_vitellius_germanicus aulus_vitellius_germanicus Apr 18, 2013 4:47 PM Flag

      INTC is the greatest company in the world. I always laugh when the #$%$'s on CNBC or Bloom talk about Tech as "Facebook" or "Yahoo" and even "AAPL". These are style companies. (And really, let's face it, Steve Jobs was just furthering the form factor concept that SONY developed in the 1960's, etc.) These aren't tech. INTC is TRUE TECH. I love that...yep..they'll find there's Hafnium in there, but they'll be left clueless...beautiful! I'm telling you, INTC may be a $1000 stock in 10 years. (or maybe not...I am not Wallis)

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