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  • will_amd_yu will_amd_yu Oct 19, 2013 8:49 PM Flag

    TSMC 20nm is DELAYED.. If it weren't they would have shouted it out from

    hilltops. Heck TSMC is only producing 15% of their volume on 28nm. That's why Morris is retiring...

    2 years after saying VOLUME production, TSMC has just 15% of their units? HOW SAD!!!.

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    • "hilltops"
      Doesn't shouting about the TSMC 14/16nm schedules .... focus the discussion on 14/16nm and defocus attention on their stretched 20nm schedule? TSMC and customers have been bragging about 20nm Powerpoint presentations, sample wafers, tape outs, test chips, mechanical samples, ........ When they get their first working part, they will all be doing a group hug in the end zone.

      BK at 3q earnings
      "While we are comfortable with where we are at with yields, from a timing standpoint, we are about a quarter behind our projections. As a result, we are now planning to begin production in the first quarter of next year."

      Intel customers are just putting Haswell systems into production. The Haswell systems provide a large improvement in the battery life over Ivy Bridge. What does the Broadwell TICK bring? It brings a shrink level of power reduction to the client PC products and hurts the PC crew.

      What could Intel be doing to make a $15 to $20 Bay Trail-T early in 2014???? What could Intel do to reduce the cost per transistor of Bay Trail-T?
      "Digitimes quotes unnamed sources from tablet makers, saying that the cheaper Bay Trail chips will be priced at around $15 to $20. That’s $12 less than the current price, in case you’re wondering. The current Bay Trail-T CPUs include the Atom Z3740 and the Atom Z3700, priced at $32 and $37. The advantages of these products include better security, AES hardware full disk encryption, Intel Platform Trust Technology and Intel Data Protection."

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      • dnenni Oct 20, 2013 10:47 AM Flag

        They did. There was even a group hug:

        First the conference, as I have written before 20nm is ramping, exceeding expectations. We will see production 20nm FPGAs and mobile devices in Q1 2014, absolutely. This comes not only from TSMC's Jack Sun and Cliff Hou, but also from the fabless crowd: Bob Maines of Oracle, Brad Howe of Altera, VJ Janapaty of LSI Logic, Esin Torfioglu of QCOM, and Sandeep Bharathi of Xilinx.

        TSMC OIP 2013 Trip Report!
        by Daniel Nenni
        Published on 10-04-2013 02:00 PM

      • IMO these are dual-core defect dies which would have built up enough initial inventory after satisfying initial quad-core demand. These can be supplemented by slugged non-defect quads after release if demand is high. As Bay Trail costs less than $10 to make IMO these will all still be sold at a profit at $15-20.

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