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Tesla Motors, Inc. Message Board

  • robert_dinero_here robert_dinero_here Sep 25, 2013 8:33 PM Flag

    But, but, but....Tesla MUST sell through dealerships!

    Should we simply allow artists to sell paintings privately? And not through a gallery?!

    There would be chaos! The customer would suffer!

    Oh, wait; we already do allow that and it works out fine.

    LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY, YOU CAR DEALER DINOSAURS
    ADAPT OR DIE

    You can cling to your ancient history model of business if you want, but don't try to drag us down into the tar pits with you.

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    • ddeboy@sbcglobal.net ddeboy Sep 27, 2013 7:13 AM Flag

      That's called free trade-Like a tag sale. Nothing wrong with those right?!

    • ispamm@gmail.com ispamm Sep 26, 2013 8:29 AM Flag

      It is hard to justify a dealership when the vehicle doesn't require $150/month in maintenance

    • You got that right. New concept car and new way to market make perfect sense to me. Once you drive one your brain helps you figure out how your going to buy one. I just think it is the best car I have ever owned. I believe in this company and still think there is a lot of upside yet on this stock.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Direct sales of big ticket items have never been successful. If I'm wrong, please name one industry. I have no problem with Tesla attempting to sell direct. My problem is the process. Simply, it screws the customer. It does NOT allow for any type of concessions whatsoever. It deprives the customer of handling his/her trade seamlessly. It puts 100% of the leasing/financing burden on the customer as the down payment factor is onerous at best. The price Tesla demands does NOT take into consideration any type of discount, ZERO! But it does provide Tesla 100% gross profit INCLUDING anything a dealer could expect, and more.

      Of course, one could call car dealers dinosaurs. But until YOU, as a consumer, are 100% convinced your $70-$80,000 outlay is completely worth the price AND your investment will be protected, then doing it the Tesla way is advisable. Plus, if you're 100% convinced you are a better retailer than a car dealer and can properly retail your own trade, back any service issues, AND know exactly what the pre-owned market is like on a daily basis, then I guess Tesla is for you.

      Otherwise, you're talking out of your posterior!

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      • ddeboy@sbcglobal.net ddeboy Sep 27, 2013 7:18 AM Flag

        If you need concessions then you need another job.

      • I once bought a house direct from a builder.. No middleman..

      • (((Direct sales of big ticket items have never been successful.)))
        ANS: I'll make sure to let Boeing and CAT know.

        (((If I'm wrong, please name one industry.)))
        ANS: No sooner done than said

        (((I have no problem with Tesla attempting to sell direct.)))
        ANS: That's a relief. I wouldn't want you to have a problem.

        (((My problem is the process. Simply, it screws the customer. It does NOT allow for any type of concessions whatsoever.)))
        ANS: That's absurd. There's nothing in the mechanism that would stop Tesla with giving the customer a price break due to no middleman.

        (((It deprives the customer of handling his/her trade seamlessly.)))
        ANS: That's meaningless.

        (((It puts 100% of the leasing/financing burden on the customer as the down payment factor is onerous at best.)))
        ANS: This is not a car for every Johnny Bananas that walks up. Deal with it.

        (((The price Tesla demands does NOT take into consideration any type of discount, ZERO!)))
        ANS: Except the 100% middleman removal rebate.

        (((But it does provide Tesla 100% gross profit INCLUDING anything a dealer could expect, and more.)))
        ANS: Tsk tsk tsk! A profit. Such an evil thing!

        (((Of course, one could call car dealers dinosaurs. But until YOU, as a consumer, are 100% convinced your $70-$80,000 outlay is completely worth the price AND your investment will be protected, then doing it the Tesla way is advisable. Plus, if you're 100% convinced you are a better retailer than a car dealer and can properly retail your own trade, back any service issues, AND know exactly what the pre-owned market is like on a daily basis, then I guess Tesla is for you.)))
        ANS: I don't know if you noticed, but cars are not 'investments' - they are liabilities. They are almost guaranteed losses. I think only Tesla provides price protection - 50% after five years or something?

        (((Otherwise, you're talking out of your posterior)))
        ANS: And even THAT end of me is smarter than your other end.

        /rd

      • houses use agents but not dealers

      • Huh? What are you talking about? You can buy even jet planes worth millions directly from Boeing or Gulfstream. New cars is the only thing in US you have to buy through a dealer.

    • I am a Tesla short right now due to high valuation but still I think it is totally unfair that the dealerships want a monopoly and not allow direct sales.

      • 4 Replies to bottomntop
      • Set your stop loss and stick to it. The odds are against you making money on this trade.

        Any good news on Tesla and you get creamed.
        Tesla is executing so every news story has been positive and this will probably continue so the risk of another positive story coming out while you are holding the short is high.

        In contrast, you need a real negative news story to come out to profit from your trade. The odds of this is very low. The trend is still up without some negative news so your trade has a very poor chance of success. Tesla could easily keep grinding higher to 250 or 300 just like NFLX before it has any meaningful crash that would allow the shorts to exit. But that would be far too late for those short from these levels.

      • You seem to be a reasonable person perhaps you should reconsider your short position. Look at how it executes (a lot of people may not know) Tesla is going to be one one the greatest company in US business history.

      • I agree its unfair, but the automobile dealers association is powerful. Its not going to allow TSLA to break tradition easily. Lots of $$$ at stake for them. So IMO, TSLA will not win the battle in 90+% of the states.

        Sentiment: Strong Sell

      • now that has to be the smartest thing I ever heard a short say in this board. sorry in advance for having to take your money

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

 
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