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  • canoner canoner Jun 23, 2010 2:56 PM Flag

    Obama is even worse than Bush

    I am shocked that I might have come to this conclusion.

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    • Trust me, we ain't gonna get a kosher bill with the line item veto either. The president is no more conservative than the majority of the congress and he is very much influenced by special interest like every congressman, and he can risk going against much of his party power figures.

    • It's also interesting that you seem to think that I only just took the stance that congress is to blame, becasue I've been saying that for at least 25 years that I know of.

      Give the pres a line item veto and then you can blame the pres for spending. Otherwise put the blame where it actually lies...CONGRESS...both houses..

      we ain't gonna get kosher bills out of congress without a presidential line item veto, and if there was such a thing congress would quit wasting time on amendments they know are going to get cut and start working like they are supposed to.

      Support kosher bills out of know...a kosher bill is a bill with no pork.

      And in the future I will thank you to not try to tell me what I've just started saying when you don't know what you're talking about.

    • It is interesting that now that the country is in tough straights and run by liberals, that you say that both parties are at fault.

      During the Bush years it was easy to place blame on republicans, and their was plenty to go around.

      But now the libs control every segment of the federal government; their policies have been ineffective and probably harmful to our country. Go ahead and blame the republicans if you want, but last I checked most of them were not setting policy and were voting against most of the bills being past.

      Oh, and check out that revised GDP that keeps on falling. Most long termers on this board didn't believe it was accurate. Hard to see the created growth, that, if there was any, was most likely the manifestation of the dems throwing money to their union friends to keep their voting base. happy.

      You all loved blaming Bush and company, well now the shoe is on the other foot. Take responsibility for the CHANGE that you are enacting.

    • also IMO the people on the fringes, the far left and far right are idealists. They are self righteous and pigheaded and have not learned how to comprimise and work with the "other" side to iron out differences.

      This IMMATURE approach to dealing with people you do not agree with or even dislike is EXACTLY why congress cannot do anything well. Obama may not fit this type, but a feel many of his staffers do.

      • 1 Reply to brookssmith_99
      • To the center of the road independents like me, it's been one nightmare after another.

        I know the left will say Obama inherited the mess from Bush. Yes he didn't take over an easy job. But Obama is push the country to bankruptcy faster with his own policies. His pro-spending and anti-business approach has added $3 trillion public debt and created no jobs at all. He is projected at add another $3.5 trillion public debt by 2012. So in one term he would accumulate almost as much debt as all others did before him. He is racking up debt at 300% of the pace Bush did.

        There is no way to defend this.

    • Bush had many of his Dads cohorts working for him. People that have been RUNNING things behind the scenes since Reagan. Obama has many GREEN (as in inexperienced academics) on his staff. That is the big difference IMO

    • We just not be a far apart as it appears, because I am not happy with most politicians on either side and I am not a teabagger.

    • If I was a bleeding heart liberal I wouldn't be sitting on 5000 shares of NE, now would I? last I checked, liberals weren't real big on the oil bidness.

      You got your shorts in a wad, you don't like the president, and you can't see that congress....and I'm not saying republicans...I'm saying ALL of congress, is the problem. they all spend and it's just a question of what they spend on, but they all spend, and that's the problem.

      get off your high horse and look at reality, and don't give me grief because you aren't capable of saying what you mean. Yeah, I guess you did need to spell it out for me, because so far you strike me as a redneck moron and I deal with enough of those everyday down here in Texas.

      You can have the last word if you like because I am reminded of the wrestling with a pig story and I'm not going to participate with you further

    • look at all the Obama apologists and liberal nuts going crazy with their one star ratings on my posts.....

      It happens everytime I point out Obama's failures, very sad to think a one star changes anything or will lift Obama from his failures.

    • Obama has lost support from all Americans, now at new lows in the polls. (see below) When Pelosi Reid and others are voted out in Novemeber, we could see a huge market rally as it will signal and end to massive gov't, overbearing regulations and attacks on business, etc,%5EGSPC,BP,XLF,XLE,GLD,TBT&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode=

      • 1 Reply to youarenotajedi
      • Obama has lost support from a majority of Americans who answer polls. Not all Americans, and not most Americans like me who don't answer a home phone, if we even have one anymore.

        here's the deal. stoopid people will wind up with stoopid government. that's what the teabaggers are lining up for. Big problems that take years to create take a long time to fix. The Great Depression wasn't over in a was more than a decade. anyone who thinks that any presiident could walk in and fix such huge problems in a year or two, especially with a congress that doesn't truly care about being responsible...and I mean BOTH PARTIES, is just silly and completely unrealistic, but most Americans nowdays think a long term plan is one that takes until next week.

        I understand a lot of people don't like Obama for a lot of reasons, many of which they won't state in public, but at the end of the day he's the best hope we have right now, and if the country would actually quit being so racist and back him on issues when it is obviously in THEIR BEST INTEREST to do so...well if they took time to really study the issues and do the math, things would already be a lot better. But too many people want Obama to fail, and don't seem to get that right now the world economy is all linked and it's fragile, and if Obama fails EVERYBODY is going to fail. All you Obama haters out there really ought to think about that, because EVERYBODY includes you.
        If you don't all get over yourselves and wise up and at least pretend to have a better attitude...well remember I told ya so...

        sure glad I bought NE in the 27's and sold in the 30's. Time to do it again, maybe.

    • me too. he has no idea what he does. he needs to go.

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