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  • ltbhdollars ltbhdollars Dec 28, 2005 5:17 PM Flag

    WARNING to board members!

    OT: My Ramblings on PC Security PT2
    by: ltbhdollars 12/22/05 11:11 am
    Msg: 6158 of 6237

    Several months ago I added a second FREE active virus blocker which is also highly regarded (AVG). It plays well with everything else and also does a programed file scan of my selection at 6 AM each day, while the auto update is preformed at 5 AM.

    I recently also added the old little giant (now MS antispyware) package for programmed file scan but have disabled the active ability. I have this file scan run at 2 AM.

    I have used the long unsupported regcleaner for many years but recently broke down and purchased the commercial replacement ala JV16 power tools (see Langa for his assessment of reg cleaners). It has many additional features and provides a more thorough cleaner to the tune of maybe ~10x.

    Lastly, I use an excellent Danish GUI wrapper that provides a one click solution for a number of other malware detectors I have long used. Now rather than downloading, installing, updating and running each as separate entities ... one click on HitmanPro does it all.

    This free program will set your PC up with:
    TrendMicro CWShredder
    LavaSoft Ad-Aware SE
    Spybot Search and Destroy
    WebRoot Spysweeper (30 day free then either delete or purchase)
    PC Tools Spyware Doctor
    HitmanPro AntiSpyware

    It also has options for:
    Disk Cleanup (delete temp files and trashcan)
    Heuristic Analysis
    Scan all local drives
    Search for low risk threats

    I usually run Hitman Pro every evening after market close and my internet reading is complete.

    NOTE: My protocol is weak in the trojan/worm sector and I have not satisfied myself on protection there. Webroot is supposed to be fair on Trojans but I have not been convinced its sufficient to pony up the bucks for it.

    LAST BUT NOT LEAST: do not open email links from folks you do not know, do not open email attachments from folks you do not know, be extremely careful clicking on video/music links (abstinence IS the best policy); use windows mediaplayer judiciously (using FF is useless IF you start clicking links that use mediaplayer which then uses activex thereby putting out the welcome mat for all the badguys); only download FF updates from trusted sites!!

    Hope this post may be of some small benefit.



    If purchasing a new PC and the architectural and price deltas are not an issue ... buy an Apple and although it may not totally eliminate all threats (especially in the future) it will certainly provide a greater degree of protection IF you do not use windows/MS on it.

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    • Wow! If anybody manages to seriously compromise YOUR PC, the rest of us can just give it up and take our pooters and throw 'em in the river! *L*

      I think for most people under most circumstances, having a single antivirus program, a software firewall, and running an antispyware program should be sufficient. My understanding is that MOST private PCs are NOT protected by ALL of such, and therein lies the rub.

      As you undoubtedly know, one common technique used by malware is to plant itself on a victim's system and use that computer to launch a continuous stream of thousands of emails to semi-randomly generated email addresses, with either links in the message field to corrupting websites, or spam messages ("our cream can add 4 inches OVERNIGHT!").

      My system was hijacked once, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit. The way I knew my system had been hijacked for use as a spam/malware distributor is that I started getting "bounce-back" emails -- emails that had been sent from my email address without my knowledge, and rejected by the "TO:" recipients' email server.

      These emails indicated that they were sent by me, to addresses I did not know, and were rejected by the target email server with error reports like (don't recall the exact wording):

      "Rejected for unknown recipient" or
      "Email rejected by server" or some such.

      One additional thing to mention to folks is that Windows XP comes with a built-in firewall, but IT IS DISABLED BY DEFAULT. You have to turn it on. The one problem I have with it is that it monitors incoming traffic, but does not monitor outgoing traffic, so if you somehow acquire spyware that's sending "stuff" out to a remote website, it won't catch it.

      Again... for those who are surfing naked, and would like to get some protection without a lot of hassle, I recommend you download Microsoft's free Beta test OneCare antivirus/firewall/backup/system cleaning/auto updating software. And download either MS's free antispyware Beta test software, or the one you recommended -- free Spybot from

      Overall, a very good post, ltbhdollars. *S*


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