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  • unclefulbert unclefulbert Jun 21, 2003 2:11 PM Flag

    Amzing: a month before the M&A

    Uncertainty for CPQ ..................
    by: only4fxxk
    Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 08/08/01 09:19 pm
    Msg: 248256 of 282699

    Based on the financial report in their broadcaster, the next 3 years will be very uncertainty for cpq to continue its business due to lower forecasting as well as most of its product are un-sellable.

    Dell and HP has overide CPQ and taking the lead.

    According to the broadcaster, its CEO has made drastic comments of selling off some of its plant in Asia as well as further cut of workfgorce to "maintain" its business and hopefully can done by Q4 of 2002.

    IMHO

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    • I'll respond for the idiot ztruth

      u r rite. ey waz rong. ey am a idiot. sory.

    • Ztruth, now squirming:

      my point was that the gain in Net Tangible Assets just about covered the pension shortfall � so why u making a mountain out of a mole hill???
      >>>>>>>>>


      You are one sorry arrogant insufferable piece of humanity.

      Your point was and is wrong, wrong, wrong.

      Why don't you have the guts to admit it?

      The pension liability is still there. It HASN"T BEEN "MADE UP".

      Why do you have so much of a problem admitting you flat out are wrong?

      Please don't be an idiot. Thank You.

    • just ztruth

      Are you that obnoxious by nature, and does your unfounded arrogance never allow you to admit you were dead wrong?

      Here is exactly what I wrote:

      You might also check the 2002 Annual report which indicates the pension Fund is underfunded by about $1.7 Billion.

      Pension Fund liabilities $5.170 Billion
      Pension Fund Assets $3.461 Billion
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


      Then you decide to butt in and lie that HP has made up the $1.7 Billion shortfall in the underfunded pension liabilities since the 2002 FY report.

      Once again. At the end of FY 2002, HP's underfunded pension liability was $1.711 Billion. The shortfall was closed by $285 Billion in Q1 (the end of Jan 2003).

      What the Net Tangible Assets were in April of 2002 has absolutely nothing to do with what the status of the pension liabilities were at the end of FY 2002.

      Just get used to it. At the end of FY 2002 the pension liabilities was at $17.111 Billion. The Net Tangible assets were $16,311 then. They improved to $16,596, or by $285 Billion.

      http://biz.yahoo.com/fin/l/h/hpq_qb.html

      Your apology will be accepted, if your arrogance will allow it.

    • just ztruth is confused again
      >>>

      stroll down to the bottom-line of ur link
      http://biz.yahoo.com/fin/l/h/hpq_qb.html

      the bottom-line says it all
      Net Tangible Assets grew by $1.6b during the period being discussed (to $16.6b from $15b)

      isnt that the real bottom-bottom line????
      looks like the growth of $1.6b in NET Tangible Assets just about covers the pension liability ... correct?

      if so, arent u making a mountain out of a mole hill??? <<<

      Wrong again. The net tangible assets at the end of FY 2002 were $16,311 Billion.

      The net tangible Assets after Q1 were $16,596, per the link provided by harrold.

      In the old math, that's an improvement by $285 Million, not $1.6 Billion.

      As I pointed out, check the FY 2002 HP annual report. The unfunded pension liabilty was about $1.7 Billion at the end of FY 2002 (ended Oct 2002).

    • I have to agree. New CEO at SLR opened the whole bottle & stunk up the joint, and they didn't even use pro forma. With HPQ it's not a matter of if, but when. I'll buy back when Carly's gone.

    • CPQ Should hit $18 or so in mini-rally
      by: value_seeker20012002
      Long-Term Sentiment: Buy 08/25/01 07:06 pm
      Msg: 250581 of 282699

      Next month or two. $20 would be maximum objective.

      Bullish on CPQ Short term--$20
      by: groucho_bear
      Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 08/26/01 07:49 pm
      Msg: 250596 of 282699

      I'm bearish on the overall market, but I think selected stocks like cpq could have a significant bear market rally. CPQ certainly has potential to high teens, even $20. It is interesting to note that the 200d moving average now is at about $18---CPQ could rally to this point over the next few weeks.

      MC: don't worry, we will catch up
      by: field45678 (42/NY) 08/28/01 10:08 am
      Msg: 250768 of 282699

      most companies in PC sector are red now. We are in between red and green. Don't worry, we will be deep red by the end of the day. There is no a single time MC disapoint you. Believe me! As long as MC is in power, he will not dispoint us!

      CPQ $100 by 2002/imho/rated #1 in too
      by: OPTIONHAPPY
      Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy

      CPQ: $22 by December 1st
      by: last_card_down
      Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 08/29/01 08:00 pm
      Msg: 250986 of 282699

      Watch the buying begin tomorrow afternoon and Friday as traders get in position for the BIG institutional buyers to come back from vacation on Tuesday. The morons here have been spewing their scare tactics on this thread when they should have been scarfing up CPQ at these bargain prices. I've been loading up on CPQ from 13.90 to 12.75. Ready for the run up.

      blackjack

      • 1 Reply to unclefulbert
      • ready/ CPQ $100.00 in 2 years/ imho
        by: OPTIONHAPPY
        Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 08/30/01 10:39 am
        Msg: 251062 of 282699

        Today is another load the wagon day. I wonder if another huge investor will buy a million shares again? Why did Dell not get a huge buy with that money instead of CPQ. HHHmmmmm?????

        CPQ = STRON BUY!!!
        by: vtlo
        Long-Term Sentiment: Hold 08/31/01 12:46 pm
        Msg: 251272 of 282699

        DON'T SELL! HOLD ON! THIS PUPPY IS NOT DEAD AND MC IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING TOO! HE TOO HAS CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENT IN CPQ & HE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO FAIL! I STILL BELEIVE HE IS DOING A GOOD JOB AND THINGS ALTHOUGH TOUGH WILL GET BETTER. I AM IN FOR THE LONG HAUL! DON'T PANIC & HAVE A NICE DAY!

        MC: we are close to dell now.
        by: field45678 (42/NY) 08/31/01 12:24 pm
        Msg: 251266 of 282699

        MC never let us down. CPQ will win the title of No. 1 loser by market close. We started in green when most of rivals are in red. We are exchaging the colour. We have passed GTW, IBM, HWP, and AAPL. The gap between dell and cpq is smaller. We will pass dell for sure. With MC as the ceo, that is typical cpq.

        So how many shares are you short?
        by: rpal3 (51/M)
        Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 08/31/01 11:01 pm
        Msg: 251393 of 282699

        You had a marvelous opportunity to stay short when you covered at 13.97; do you really have a clue what you are talking about or is that just a rhetorical question? My guess is that, at this point, you are hoping to bottom fish and that you will go long next week. Prove me wrong and, instead, short a few thousand shares. I dare you.

 
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