I have been reading on the sidelines and just had to point one thing out to you. I have been on this board for a long time and have heard you lump conservatives into evil groups as well. Max just referred to one poster as being a Christian Fundamentalist and touted his verbage as "trash". I think that you ALL need to grow up and discuss things in an adult manner that agrees to disagree, without avarice or threats. Otherwise, all of you would do well to start a board of your own. I am not one to think that this board should stick solely to HPQ because world events shape the market as well as the company, but I and others really get sick of the name calling by both sides.