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  • billyliar66 billyliar66 Oct 18, 2011 11:39 AM Flag

    OWS Deals Massvie Defeat to GOP

    The biggest, most costly defeat to the GOP has already been delivered to the GOP. It will cost them dearly, and have long lasting effect.

    Social Security will not be given to Wall Street.

    This was the centerpiece of the 2012+ strategy for the GOP. The Wall Streeters had their greedy eyes on the $2,500,000,000,000 in US Government securities, good as cash or gold, sitting in a file cabinet in West Virgina.

    Their plan was to get some or all of this, and all future SS payments to be given to the Wall Street Casino. In return, Wall Street had a 'market basket' of bow-wow stocks, not worth the pile of electrons sitting in memory that represent them. That would have been traded for the 2.5T, and the 2.5T would soon be 2.5B. Well, too bad, Mr. and Mrs. Retiree, you had a chance to be rich, that should console you.

    Now, with the 99% awakened, there is no chance of this happening.

    The Wall Street owners of the GOP are surely fuming.

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    • SS given to wall street?

      You really are that stupid....now we know.

      It is a good thing obama will be gone and the senate will also be gop.

    • They can and have reinterpreted the words in the constitution though so if we are hung up on what a commerce clause is we just change the definitions of those words to suit the oligarchs needs.

      Just like the meaning of "sex with that women" the definition of "is" --is, mission accomplished, and illegal immigrants that are now undocumented aliens.

      That's how this illusion of being a country of laws and alleged freedoms has been degraded.

    • spring posts >Lower Courts have ruled against it. The Supreme Court will as well

      are u REALLY that dumb ... until and if the scotus rules, the hcr that passed is STILL being implemented as i post and REMAINS the law of our land ... all of it and in its entirety

      the only part on hold is the long term care piece ... and that’s on hold by bho, not the courts

    • spring posts >No one including the government can force you to buy a service against your will. The HC Bill exceeds the interstate commerce clause. It is beyond the federal governments powers as listed in the Constitution.

      since when have u donned 4 black robes??? ur opinion is just ur opinion ... WRONG as it may be

      as of now, the hcr bill PASSED by congress and signed into law by bho is the law of the land ... so as of now, ur DEAD WRONG

    • liberals_plague_humanity liberals_plague_humanity Oct 18, 2011 4:49 PM Flag

      CLEVELAND, Ohio (CBS Cleveland) – An “Occupy Cleveland” protester tells police she was raped in her tent over the weekend.

      Cleveland police are investigating an alleged sexual assault incident Saturday at the “Occupy Cleveland” rally involving a 19-year-old female student from Parma.

      According to police reports, the 19-year-old student was instructed by “Occupy Cleveland” personnel to “share a tent with the suspect due to a shortage of tents.” The suspect identified himself as “Leland” to the woman. The woman told police that after she had thought the suspect went to sleep in his own bed, she slept in a sleeping bag provided to her by the rally.

      The student went to school Monday and told a teacher about her sexual assault incident in Public Square — which is being classified as “kidnapping/rape” — prompting the teacher to immediately contact the authorities.

    • That's what I thought. So the same Constitution lets my local yokels tell me I must put in a smoke detector.

      Couldn't they also tell me "You must buy healthcare too." What's the difference?

    • So, how does my local government compel me to do anything, by what authority?

    • priv·i·lege
         [priv-uh-lij, priv-lij] Show IPA noun, verb, -leged, -leg·ing.
      noun
      1. a right, immunity, or benefit enjoyed only by a person beyond the advantages of most: the privileges of the very rich.
      2. a special right, immunity, or exemption granted to persons in authority or office to free them from certain obligations or liabilities: the privilege of a senator to speak in Congress without danger of a libel suit.
      3. a grant to an individual, corporation, etc., of a special right or immunity, under certain conditions.
      4. the principle or condition of enjoying special rights or immunities.
      5. any of the rights common to all citizens under a modern constitutional government: We enjoy the privileges of a free people.

      Hmm. It looks like definitions #1, #2, #3, and #4 all currently apply to health care. It looks like it's definition #5 for privilege that you don't think should apply to the privilege of heath care.

    • They may have violated the commerce clause (I believe they did), but in the age of legislating from the bench, who knows how they will rule.

    • Having health care is a privilege, now more than ever!

      In reality, it seems like a really thin argument, that suddenly the government cannot compel me to do anything.

      How about crossing a street in the middle, not at the corner? It really only concerns my safety. Yes, the other drivers safety is also at stake, so now, the government can make rules for my behavior as it affects others? Sounds like they can make me have health care so I don't give TB to others in the country.

 
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