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  • billyliar66 billyliar66 Feb 9, 2012 12:02 PM Flag

    Catholics Want Government To Enforce Religion

    Catholic Bishops want the government to deprive their workers of reproductive choice.

    It's a health issue, best left to doctors and patients, not people in red robes and beanies, who by the way, have never had sex, let alone children.

    Its a far reach to say the rights of the celibate Bishops to not pay for particular health care item, is their religious right.

    Couldn't one then say, "I have a religious objection to Catholics, I don't want to hire any, and will fire any who are found out?" That's a civil rights violation.

    Again, Religion is failing and fading. Churches keep wanting the power of Government to enforce their silly and ancient superstitions.

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    • >>Don't confuse the problems Europe has with Islamic terrorism with support for Israel and the reaction in many European countries if Israel unilaterally strikes against Iran. They will fight to protect their citizens internaly, but they are not necessarily going move to protect or help Israel.
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      If that war starts, it is reasonable to expect the Islamic terrorism to be global, not confined, and more active, so Europe will be fighting to protect its citizens.

      We also have no idea how the rest of the ME and Africa will behave since the Arab spring has changed the dynamics. It is entirely possible it wouldn't just be a war between Israel and Iran with the U.S. helping Israel.

      Israel bombing Iran to stop its development of nuclear weapons is a huge throw of the dice. It might be a small event like the bombing of Iraq's nuclear reactor, or it just might set the whole ME off like a powder keg.

      Just to add to the mix, the U.S. really can't afford to go to war with Iran.

    • Don't confuse the problems Europe has with Islamic terrorism with support for Israel and the reaction in many European countries if Israel unilaterally strikes against Iran. They will fight to protect their citizens internaly, but they are not necessarily going move to protect or help Israel.
      France maybe would help because they have a sizeable force in Lebanon that would be immediately put at risk.

    • Lurky,

      You seem to think it would contain itself to the Middle East. I think that is naive, especially considering the level of Islamic terrorism Europe already has to deal with.

    • The church is welcome to preach whatever it likes regarding the use of contraceptives, but attempting to force their employees to abstain from their use is unconstitutional and just plain wrong-headed. Having the cost covered by insurance is in no way forcing any church employee to use contraceptives, simply allowing them the freedom to choose for themselves. After all, this is the United States of America, not medieval Europe.

    • I don't know how the politics will play out, although I doubt that the backlash will really impact the Presidential election to any great degree.

      But I believe that if Catholic hospitals and doctors are going to accept taxpayer dollars in return for their services, they shouldn't be allowed to refuse to provide contraceptives to patients who request them.

      No Catholic hospital or doctor has to take any federal money if they don't want to; but if they take the money, they should have to play by the same rules that apply to everyone else.

      This is different from the abortion situation because federal law already prohibits the use of taxpayer money to fund abortion services. The Catholic hierarchy knows that they will never get a law banning the use of taxpayer money to provide contraceptives through the Congress, so they are raising this phony religiou freedom argument instead.

    • billy posts >Again, Religion is failing and fading. Churches keep wanting the power of Government to enforce their silly and ancient superstitions.

      religion is NOTHING more than big business ... thats what the church is protecting ... their profits

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      • I actually think it was World War II that spelled the beginning of the end for Religion.

        Once people found out about the death camps, human experiments, Japanese atrocities, firestorm bombing, and the atomic bomb, they all knew: No God would let all this happen.

        It just didn't square up anymore. Couple with that during the same time the world began to understand more and more about the Universe.

        The H-Bomb was recreation of the Sun energy process on earth.

 
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