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  • goldengopher123 goldengopher123 Feb 29, 2012 12:15 PM Flag

    Santorum Downfall: Sex, JFK, College


    The nut case conservative came out against 3 of the most popular aspects of America.

    So off to the land of Palin, Bachmann, Cain and Perry for Santorum!!!

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    • Spriggy, try to remember that you can't vote for Calvin Coolidge again this time.

    • Barry Goldwater actually had a brain and some common sense, something that is sorely lacking is most of the GOP these days.

    • vt,

      Nor would we want to confuse morality with ethics.

    • > He was a strict constitutional conservative

      Ah, so that's why he supported a strict separation of church and state, a woman's right to chose, and gay rights in the military.

      > You've confused religion and morality with
      > conservatism. The two are mutually exclusive.

      Thanks for the clarification. Do you think that all the other conservatives (besides you and I) agree? We certainly wouldn't want to confuse morality and conservatism.

    • > Barry Goldwater was not representative of a 1950's
      > conservative. He was an Ultra right wing conservative.

      Here are few quotes from your "ultra right wing conservative".

      "When you say "radical right" today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye."

      "And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.'"

      "I'm frankly sick and tired of the
      political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if
      I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.'
      Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to
      claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?"

      "I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That’s a decision that’s up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the religious right. It’s not a conservative issue at all.'

      "Everyone knows that gays have served honorably in the military since at least the time of Julius Caesar. You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight."

      Goldwater even endorsed an Arizona attempt at legalizing marijuana.

      Barry Goldwater was a libertarian, much like Ron Paul. He was not really a conservative, especially by today's standards.

    • Ike is dead just like Nixon, Goldwater and Reagan. The conservative movement is finished - William Buckley died too if you didn't hear.

      Tea Beggars are not conservatives; just greedy pigs.

    • So you don't like Willard. You don't like Sanitarium. I think you like Gangreneich but he's practically out of the race. So, you defend Sanitarium but refuse to state whether you'd vote or voted for him. Which is it? Can we just say ...ursofulofkrap?

    • Right - He was th President that warned us in his farewell speech about the military industrial complex:

      President of the United States (and former General of the Army) Dwight D. Eisenhower used the term in his Farewell Address to the Nation on January 17, 1961:

      A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction...
      This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

      We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    • So who did you vote for springy?

    • Sanitariun doesn't want people to get college education. Except he has 3 degrees. LOL.

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