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  • sstail94 sstail94 Jan 7, 2013 8:46 AM Flag

    Even Pravda gets it


    Even the Russians know the folly of relinquishing our 2nd rights. And how tiny seemingly miniscule first steps eventually lead to a total ban.

    Jan 2, 2013

    Pravda: Americans Never Give Up Your Guns

    Understand this article and you will understand the real reason not to give up your guns.-RW

    By Stanislav Mishin

    These days, there are few few things to admire about the socialist, bankrupt and culturally degenerating USA, but at least so far, one thing remains: the right to bare arms and use deadly force to defend one's self and possessions.

    This will probably come as a total shock to most of my Western readers, but at one point, Russia was one of the most heavily armed societies on earth. This was, of course, when we were free under the Tsar. Weapons, from swords and spears to pistols, rifles and shotguns were everywhere, common items. People carried them concealed, they carried them holstered. Fighting knives were a prominent part of many traditional attires and those little tubes criss crossing on the costumes of Cossacks and various Caucasian peoples? Well those are bullet holders for rifles.

    Various armies, such as the Poles, during the Смута (Times of Troubles), or Napoleon, or the Germans even as the Tsarist state collapsed under the weight of WW1 and Wall Street monies, found that holding Russian lands was much much harder than taking them and taking was no easy walk in the park but a blood bath all its own. In holding, one faced an extremely well armed and aggressive population Hell bent on exterminating or driving out the aggressor.

    This well armed population was what allowed the various White factions to rise up, no matter how disorganized politically and militarily they were in 1918 and wage a savage civil war against the Reds. It should be noted that many of these armies were armed peasants, villagers, farmers and merchants, protecting their own. If it had not been for Washington's clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently.

    Moscow fell, for example, not from a lack of weapons to defend it, but from the lieing guile of the Reds. Ten thousand Reds took Moscow and were opposed only by some few hundreds of officer cadets and their instructors. Even then the battle was fierce and losses high. However, in the city alone, at that time, lived over 30,000 military officers (both active and retired), all with their own issued weapons and ammunition, plus tens of thousands of other citizens who were armed. The Soviets promised to leave them all alone if they did not intervene. They did not and for that were asked afterwards to come register themselves and their weapons: where they were promptly shot.

    Of course being savages, murderers and liars does not mean being stupid and the Reds learned from their Civil War experience. One of the first things they did was to disarm the population. From that point, mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation were all a safe game for the powers that were. The worst they had to fear was a pitchfork in the guts or a knife in the back or the occasional hunting rifle. Not much for soldiers.

    To this day, with the Soviet Union now dead 21 years, with a whole generation born and raised to adulthood without the SU, we are still denied our basic and traditional rights to self defense. Why? We are told that everyone would just start shooting each other and crime would be everywhere....but criminals are still armed and still murdering and to often, especially in the far regions, those criminals wear the uniforms of the police. The fact that everyone would start shooting is also laughable when statistics are examined.

    While President Putin pushes through reforms, the local authorities, especially in our vast hinterland, do not feel they need to act like they work for the people. They do as they please, a tyrannical class who knows they have absolutely nothing to fear from a relatively unarmed population. This in turn breeds not respect but absolute contempt and often enough, criminal abuse.

    For those of us fighting for our traditional rights, the US 2nd Amendment is a rare light in an ever darkening room. Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack. What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or "talking to them", it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.

    The excuse that people will start shooting each other is also plain and silly. So it is our politicians saying that our society is full of incapable adolescents who can never be trusted? Then, please explain how we can trust them or the police, who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?

    No it is about power and a total power over the people. There is a lot of desire to bad mouth the Tsar, particularly by the Communists, who claim he was a tyrant, and yet under him we were armed and under the progressives disarmed. Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.

    So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.

    Reprinted from Paravda and originally appeared at the author's blog, Mat Rodina

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    • Here is the price we pay for the easy availability of guns (footnotes omitted but every fact in this post is based on FBI statistics and other reliable sources):

      In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides, suicides and unintentional shootings. This is the equivalent of more than 85 deaths each day and more than three deaths each hour.

      73,505 Americans were treated in hospital emergency departments for non-fatal gunshot wounds in 2010.

      Firearms were the third-leading cause of injury-related deaths nationwide in 2010, following poisoning and motor vehicle accidents.

      Between 1955 and 1975, the Vietnam War killed over 58,000 American soldiers – less than the number of civilians killed with guns in the U.S. in an average two-year period.

      In the first seven years of the U.S.-Iraq War, over 4,400 American soldiers were killed. Almost as many civilians are killed with guns in the U.S. every seven weeks.


      Guns were used in 11,078 homicides in the U.S. in 2010, comprising almost 35% of all gun deaths, and over 68% of all homicides.

      On average, 33 gun homicides were committed each day for the years 2005-2010.

      Regions and states with higher rates of gun ownership have significantly higher rates of homicide than states with lower rates of gun ownership.


      Firearms were used in 19,392 suicides in the U.S. in 2010, constituting almost 62% of all gun deaths.

      Over 50% of all suicides are committed with a firearm.

      On average, 49 gun suicides were committed each day for the years 2005-2010.

      White males, about 40% of the U.S. population, accounted for over 80% of firearm suicides in 2010.

      A study of California handgun purchasers found that in the first year after the purchase of a handgun, suicide was the leading cause of death among the purchasers.

      Firearms were used in nearly 44% of suicide deaths among persons under age 25 in 2010.

      More than 75% of guns used in suicide attempts and unintentional injuries of 0-19 year-olds were stored in the residence of the victim, a relative, or a friend.

      The risk of suicide increases in homes where guns are kept loaded and/or unlocked.

      Unintentional Deaths and Injuries

      In 2010, unintentional firearm injuries caused the deaths of 606 people.

      From 2005-2010, almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.

      Over 1,300 victims of unintentional shootings for the period 2005–2010 were under 25 years of age.

      States with the highest gun ownership levels have nine times the rate of unintentional firearms deaths compared to states with the lowest gun ownership levels.

      A federal government study of unintentional shootings found that 8% of such shooting deaths resulted from shots fired by children under the age of six.
      Although exact figures are impossible to come by, it's estimated that Americans own between 300 million and 350 million firearms, or roughly one for every man, woman, and child in the country. While the rate of gun ownership has dropped dramatically over the past 50 years, from one in every two households to one in every three households, the numbers of guns in private hands has risen dramatically. In other words, fewer and fewer people are owning more and more guns.

    • There is a lot of nonsense in here. Mishin is a Russian expat living in the US, so obviously he doesn't think the US is that bad.

      Mostly I can't believe in an armed Russian peasantry. The overwhelming majority of Russians were serfs until 1861, when they were allowed to buy their freedom. I can't picture any noble arming the serfs from whom he expected unquestioning obedience. The freed serfs struggled to survive, so where would money to buy arms come from? Neither German nor Austrian peasants had the right to possess firearms until their uprisings in the 1840s, so I have to think Russian peasants lacked those rights, as well. The peasant uprisings in Russia you read about seem to have all been led by ex-Army officers who acquired guns from deserters, raided government armories, etc.

      The other unbelievable bit is that Poles were aggressors. All through the 1800s, Germany, Austria, and Russia systematically carved up Poland until nothing was left. As a side note, Russia wanted their "fair" share of Poland, but did not want any more Jews in their country, so they forbade Jews to migrate east of the historic boundaries of Poland (the "Pale of Settlement).

    • Tail, if you are so enamored with Russia why don't you move there - Putin would be pleased to get you and taxes are low so you would be very happy. And don't let the door hit you in the Tail.

    • sst,

      Read your piece twice and there is nothing for my brain to retain. Jibberish from a nincompoop.

    • yes, and the second amendment is designed to prevent exactly what happened there. There are 10's of millions of guns owned in America and God help us if the govt thinks they can take them.

      • 2 Replies to ageneralnusiance
      • General, read teh 2nd amendment again:
        "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

        The Second Amendment exists not to take down the government, but to do just the opposite - to defend the country and the government. Read what it says. If what you say was really true, then John Hinckley, Sara Jane Moore, and others would never have gone to prison because the Second Amendment would have protected them.

      • You don’t seem to understand. I don’t think the plan is to ban all guns but to control the sale and ownership of certain weapons. I guess you people just want to hear and see what you want to hear and see. That just what happens when you can’t think for yourself and unable to grasp the concept of common sense

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