does anyone know where information might be available on the partnering arrangement between Intel and HWP for the development of the next generation chip, code named mercede. Why is it that Intel would choose HWP over other firms that have more to bring to the table in the way of chip development.
**Good points, there are really many advantages
to Merced and McKinley (sp). I'm reminded what a
great boost it was for HP when RISC started being used.
You are correct, HP went ahead with RISC and only was
joined by IBM months later, then the others came along.
IMHO that was a major step in HPs competition with
SUN, DEC, and IBM server business. What a
**By the way, I appreciate your reasonable answer,
some of the shrill responses to Mr YYM hurt my ears. A
soft answer turns away wrath.
The reason why Intel chose HP is because HP had
the technology that they needed. Hp two years ago
decided to get out of the Business of producing their own
processors, but they still had alot of knowledge. That's when
Intel and HP realized that if they worked together,
they could create a chip that would set new standards.
Did you know SUN is talking with INtel on merced,
and more importantly the follow on. They want to port
the SUN unix operating system to the merced/follow
Intel is not looking for an exclusive customer they
want everyone to use it, is HP going to make any
merceds? Answer NO!
Dell has also been talking to
Intel about it and they didn't have to spend any money
on it. Mike DELL says thank you HP, now we can buy a
nice enterprise processor so we can compete against
Sun HP and IBM in areas we couldn't dream of a few
Pretty funny situation,
Just to clear something up
It's "like who"
-this is the Accusative or direct object in English.
"Whom" is the Dative or indirect object, and is usually
preceded by a preposition such as "to" or
It's OK to not use "whom" as "who" is now accepted
usage for the Dative in modern English. But you
shouldn't use "whom" in the accusative as this is
I hope I'm not being pedantic,officious or
No comment on the rest of your message except that
there's a problem with "in which,etc". Try "which" or "of
The main reason Intel chose HP is the PA-Risc chip that HP developed in the 80s (in what some call a 'bet the Company' project).
This chip runs all of HP's highend boxes now and will be incorporated in Merced with x86 stuff from Intel.
Besides, who else is bett'rn HP for this type of project.
My HP buddies think this will be the next great new product that will propel HWP to greater heights.
I agree and also believe that their consumer product initiave will also increase margins.
I'm gonna be rich, rich, do you hear me!!!! RICH
The code name is Merced not Mercede. Merced is a name of a river in US. Mercede is a well-known card maker. The reason is that HWP is one of the most innovative high-tech companies. HWP is a dominated player in the workstation company. I am sure
that HWP wants to extend its workstation market share to over 50%. Maybe this is the reason that HWP is helping INTC to develop the next generation chip. I strongly beleieve that the project will be very sucessful. HWP stock will do well in next three to five years. The stock is around 60 now. I think that it is cheap . It probably will be over $100 when the Merced chips are going for mass production in 1999.
HA! Want some good reading material, view this guy's original post back in 97. Too bad this prediction was made BC (Before Carly). Little did he know one little wench would take down the whole company.
The message below represents the sentiment that existed wheh HP gave up its chip architecture ... and got in bed with Intel...
CPQ had done the same giving away Alpha...
Now we have great dreams for Intel delivering Intanium II ... Fact is Intel has already got what they wanted ... two legitimate competitors gave up the crown jewels...
The truth is the NEW HP has no server roadmap now... And with the continuing collopase of its server business ... STorage and Services will shrink down to also rans as well..
One thing is true in all industries when you have fundamentally incompetent leadership .. like the NEW HP has ... the company will always fall behind... and eventually may fold..
Date: 11/19/97 10:05 am
The code name is Merced not Mercede. Merced is a name of a river in US. Mercede is a well-known card maker. The reason is that HWP is one of the most innovative high-tech companies. HWP is a dominated player in the workstation company. I am sure that HWP wants to extend its workstation market share to over 50%. Maybe this is the reason that HWP is helping INTC to develop the next generation chip. I strongly beleieve that the project will be very sucessful. HWP stock will do well in next three to five years. The stock is around 60 now. I think that it is cheap . It probably will be over $100 when the Merced chips are going for mass production in 1999.
Merced is not a good option, HP has realized
it that is why they are cutting down the merced
(IA-64) labs, after spending billions of dollars. A very basic question, how much
a processor speed or good system arch can improve OS performance
when they have very poor I/O transaction rate,
problems with STREAMS code, TCP/IP stack of
HP-UX unix OS.
ekurich, I also feel that it would be a very positive thing for HP. Though, I was thinking more along the lines of the HP's sharing in the chip sales. I take it from your response that you think that may be negligable in comparison with increased market
share of the computer market. did I read that correctly? do you think that HP is only providing design expertise or do they stand to share in the profit from the actual sales of the chips? If so -- do you have any insight as to what that percentage might be? thanks.