This battle is getting personal between Ackman and Carl. One of these hedgies will end up losing a boatload of money. My bet is on Ackman: eventually the stupids of this world will cease to believe in HLF as a savior for their wretched career. Without these stupids, HLF's growth will slow. On the other side, if Carl is able to take HLF private, Ackman is comprehensively hosed.