Interesting about the 1000 member down line which started off as 1000 recruits more or less all still around indicating close to 100% retention, until a clarification came through. that must put him in the presidents club or one of those top money making positions in the cult. But Gordito also said numbers have been stable, meaning flat in his down line for the last 4-5 years. Now that does not sound like robust growth to me. If you have 1000 recruiters out there pounding the street, opening recruiting centers, etc. one ought to see some growth. sounds like a lot of churning especially with the opening of new recruitment centers all over Chicago land. How many total recruits do you think Gordito and his gang in Chicago have recruited over the last 10 years to keep 1000 on board at this time? It has to be BIG.