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  • azalphainvestor azalphainvestor Mar 26, 2007 11:02 AM Flag

    MOre Iraq

    Few Americans share Iraq war's sacrifices
    Some say US citizens need a war tax or a call to national service.
    By Gordon Lubold | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

    Page 1 of 3

    WASHINGTON - Ask Navy corpsman Adam Shepherd what he wants Americans to know about his service in Iraq and he says it boils down to one thing. "Just don't forget that we sacrificed a lot to be out here," says the medic, stationed at Camp Taqaddum, Iraq.

    It's a sentiment that many servicemen and women express. Five years after President Bush declared war on Islamic extremism, the military has lost 3,599 troops and spent $503 billion in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yet unlike past wars, even unpopular ones, most Americans have contributed little directly. Tire and paper drives of World War II are a dim memory. An increasingly narrow slice of the population serves in the military.

    Now, a growing number of observers question whether Americans should make some kind of sacrifice for what Bush himself calls the "decisive ideological struggle of our time." Despite the billions spent on defense, which represents 4 percent of the gross domestic product, many inside the administration and conservatives outside it believe it's time to spend more. But raising defense spending at a time when Americans are frustrated with the Iraq war is problematic. It also raises questions for the growing number of Americans who don't support the president's war strategy. So what should citizens do � if anything � to support US troops?

    Aside from sending care packages or volunteering to help those in uniform, Americans seem to have no ready answers.

    All this comes at a time when lawmakers, analysts, and many current and former military officials blame Bush for failing to mobilize the nation by calling on Americans to join the military or creating national service programs or even raising additional resources to help pay for the war effort. Instead, he has doled out tax cuts and suggested Americans can be true patriots by keeping the economy going strong.

    Says one retired general: "Marines are at war, America is at the mall."

    MOre:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0326/p01s01-ussc.html

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    • QWAK,canucanoe,You are talking SILLY agen!-- "I just don't confuse making a buck due to supply/demand with doom and gloom." -- I DON'T and have NOT made one single BUCK (FRN)off of GOLD or SILVER, I just SAVED (LOCKED in VALUE) in HARD CURRENCY, somthing that today is as FOREIGN as seeing a MATION riding a PONEY down state street! It is somthing EVERY ONE should be doing rather than BUYING stuff they CAN'T afford with money they aint GOT!

      As the cheep credit evaporates so will the DELUSION that people are RICH, in fact it will dawn on most that THEY are POOR and SO is their COUNTRY, with bills that just can not posably be repayed.

      Most likely the powers that be will start a WAR to DISTRACT the population they could call it a "WAR on TERROR" and SPEND all they WANT turning the GRAND CHILDREN in to DEBT SLAVES TOO!

      One thing I am NOT about is MAKING a FAST BUCK --- that should be more than OBVIOUS by now!

      the DUCK

    • Duck, re:

      >>>QWAK,canucanoe,Your mind has been SO distorted that YOU stand ready to believe ANY THING when told by the government that "this IS how IT IS" with out YOU questioning WHY or IF, it realy IS what THEY say "IT IS"!<<<

      Not at all. I own gold/silver like you do. In fact, I believe my positions are a bit older than yours (started accumulating in '98-99). I just don't confuse making a buck due to supply/demand with doom and gloom.

    • QWAK,canucanoe,Your mind has been SO distorted that YOU stand ready to believe ANY THING when told by the government that "this IS how IT IS" with out YOU questioning WHY or IF, it realy IS what THEY say "IT IS"!

      Your concept of FREEDOM is that of a HAMSTER being ALLOWED to RUN on its wheel! Perhaps a little DIFERENT for people being ALLOWED to "RUN UP the DOWN escalator" -- as much as they can? (economicly speaking, as THEY devalue the dollar constently"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXTeUwMR0M&mode=related&search=

      Allowing the CREATION of infinate amounts of NEW CURRENCY by MONITISING DEBT is INSANITY! Allowing the BANKERS to charge INTRIST on said NONEXISTENT MONEY is just MODERN SLAVERY dressed up and SOLD as FREEDOM ---- it is A LIE and is GREED on STEROIDS that can ONLY end BADLY!

      "So much, that all the world is jealous." ----- canucanoe this is agen just your TWISTED PERCEPTIONS,the WORLD is NOT so much jealous as it is ANGRY and geting realy MAD that this country has created a GLOBALY untenable situation that SUCKS power from the BOTTOM and must continue to EXPAND or it will COLAPS!

      the DUCK

    • QWAK,canucanoe,You are talking SHIT agen,pleas STOP it STINKS!

      the DUCK

    • Duck, you have plenty of freedom. So much, that all the world is jealous. You should thank your Government.

    • QWAK,canucanoe, LOL Silly BOY! "More childlike ranting. I do hope you eat with your hands. Then again, maybe I should be worried about that tool too?" ---- I guess YOU never been FORKED! :)

      Fact is the reason table ware has knives with rounded points goes back to mideaval time when it was common for GUESTS in the dining halls to STAB each other and it realy SPOILD the party for the other guests! :)

      Money is a powerfull TOOL and when CONCENTRATED in corrupted hands it is THE most dangerous tool, because it allows control of NATIONS and there by their MILITARY and all the most destructive WEPONS/TOOLS that unlimited MONEY and IMAGINATION can create!

      Power CORRUPTS and when people surender their power even in very creative ways (FIAT and BANKING) it is turned back on them OPRESSING them and making them SLAVES who are COMPELLED to SUPORT the very system that INSLAVED them when they knowingly or NOT, surendered their power to the system.

      Governments can NOT give or bestow FREEDOM they can ONLY take FREEDOM away, THAT is what governments DO and THE definition of what GOVERNING MEANS!

      Small may be nessary BUT the biger governmets get the more dangerous the become as power SHIFTS in to hands who would MISUSE and ABUSE the power and do ANY THING to get MORE and KEEP what they got!

      the DUCK

    • Duck, re:

      >>>QWAK,canucanoe,You speak FOOLISHLY! Every TOOL is potentialy a WEAPON too, it depends on WHO gets to USE the TOOL and THEIR INTENT! <<<

      More childlike ranting. I do hope you eat with your hands. Then again, maybe I should be worried about that tool too?

    • Eggs'n'Ham,

      I am quite glad that I recognized
      my misjudgement of you early on.
      Your contributions to this board
      are priceless. Timeless classics
      like watching an episode of the
      Lil Rascals in Bill Cosby's basement.
      Thank you for keeping it real and
      exposing Dumb and Dumber for the
      rat pack that they are. I look
      forward to reading more of your work
      in the future.

      Cordially,
      Mikie

    • QWAK,canucanoe,You speak FOOLISHLY! Every TOOL is potentialy a WEAPON too, it depends on WHO gets to USE the TOOL and THEIR INTENT! Power CORRUPTS, the more power the more corruption --- with out a LIMITING FACTOR, the CORRUPTION has NO LIMITS EITHER!

      The fact that THIS escaps your perception/comprehension demonstrates a blindness to any thing that chalenges your PARADIGN, (which is not realy YOURS), but was ADOPTED and is suported by you, because it is WHAT you were TOLD and YOU did not QUESTION it, just accepted that, it MUST be RIGHT!

      You don't THINK, only THINK you DO! WAKE UP! You are DREAMING! REALITY is very diferent from what you were LEAD to believe! GUESS WHAT ----- GOVERNMENTS LIE!! The ALL DO!!DAUH!!!!

      The #1 priority of any BUROCRACY is to preserve and GROW the BUROCRACY. EVERY government becomes a SELF SERVING BUROCRACY and passed a point becomes a TYRANICAL MONSTROCITY and if NOT LIMITED and controlled there is NO LIMIT to how dangerous and destructive they can get!

      the DUCK

    • Donald said - "IF you and egghead are NOT the same person, perhaps you should DATE, because you are MADE for each other and like they say --- Birds of a Feather ---- F*CK together! :) LOL (Take a WALK on the WILD SIDE!)"

      Hmmmmmmmmmm ..... I'll bet you're missing your Butt Buddy JaD and longing for his cyber embrace. I'll bet you wiggle your feathery tail when he whispers sweet nothings in your ear.

      Let's not forget Donald how you and JaD have joined together to mess with this and other message boards when JaD said - ""I fought with everybody, but found it so damn challenging that I stayed with it, and got sucked into a daily slug fest, that became enjoyable, in a strange sense."

      "My poor wife used to come in the computer room now and then to see what I was doing. She thought I was nuts."

      "The duck and I are old friends, and have gotten into the same kind of gaf, but as friends on the KO sight, and when I got him over on the CCJ site, he pissed them off real good. So, I jumped in an took his side. We both just love to stir things up, and it's really fun when people get so serious about stuff."

      http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Busine...

      Now you're trying to PRETEND to take the high-road.

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