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  • azalphainvestor azalphainvestor Mar 18, 2008 12:12 PM Flag

    Obama - So Much better than his critics

    “I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election,” he said.

    One of the most powerful passages was when he spoke of Reverend Wright: “I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe. These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.”

    Mr. Obama says that, “The profound mistake of Reverend Wright’s sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It’s that he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made; as if this country – a country that has made it possible for one of his own members to run for the highest office in the land and build a coalition of white and black; Latino and Asian, rich and poor, young and old — is still irrevocably bound to a tragic past. But what we know — what we have seen – is that America can change. That is true genius of this nation.”


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    • RE:"Ah yes, forgive the misunderstood. Are you sure you understand?"

      Aristotle you ain't!

    • RE:"9. It is this deficit that must be met by incoming investment in the US in any form. It could be anything from businesses, equities to Treasury instruments. We are already seeing a fall off in the situation of developing nations carrying the spending habits of industrial nations; a contradiction in terms"

      If you're interested in a discussion, let's flesh this out. Please footnote your "falloff" point, and let's see where that takes us. If not,then, let me just your wife missing me?


    • alph may not have read the afternoon edition.......of nyt...thus no posts!!

    • I am stone to see such an unexperience person rising so high based on his carisma only. Because Obama has not record of accomplishing anything of relevance, but there is not question that people can get to the top just by using the right scripted words into the mind of naive people.....

    • Alpha, re:

      >>>Much of the time, blacks have a pretty good sense of what whites think, but whites are oblivious to common black perspectives. <<<

      Ah yes, forgive the misunderstood. Are you sure you understand?

    • Obama and Race

      Barack Obama this week gave the best political speech since John Kennedy talked about his Catholicism in Houston in 1960, and it derived power from something most unusual in modern politics: an acknowledgment of complexity, nuance and legitimate grievances on many sides. It was not a sound bite, but a symphony.

      But the furor over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s inflammatory sermons shows that Mr. Obama erred in an earlier speech — the 2004 speech to the Democratic National Convention that catapulted him to fame.

      In that speech, Mr. Obama declared that “there is not a black America and a white America... . There’s the United States of America.” That’s a beautiful aspiration, and we’re making progress toward it. But this last week has underscored that we’re not nearly there yet.

      The outrage over sermons by Mr. Wright demonstrates how desperately we as a nation need the dialogue about race that Mr. Obama tried to start with his speech on Tuesday.

      Many well-meaning Americans perceive Mr. Wright as fundamentally a hate-monger who preaches antagonism toward whites. But those who know his church say that is an unrecognizable caricature: He is a complex figure and sometimes a reckless speaker, but one of his central messages is not anti-white hostility but black self-reliance.

      “The big thing for Wright is hope,” said Martin Marty, one of America’s foremost theologians, who has known the Rev. Wright for 35 years and attended many of his services. “You hear ‘hope, hope, hope.’ Lots of ordinary people are there, and they’re there not to blast the whites. They’re there to get hope.”

      Professor Marty said that as a white person, he sticks out in the largely black congregation but is always greeted with warmth and hospitality. “It’s not anti-white,” he said. “I don’t know anybody who’s white who walks out of there not feeling affirmed.”

      Mr. Wright has indeed made some outrageous statements. But he should be judged as well by his actions — including a vigorous effort to address poverty, ill health, injustice and AIDS in his ministry. Mr. Wright has been frightfully wrong on many topics, but he was right on poverty, civil rights and compassion for AIDS victims.

      What should draw much more scrutiny in this campaign than any pastor’s sermons is the candidates’ positions on education, health care and poverty — and their ability to put those policies in place. Cutting off health care benefits for low-income children strikes me as much more offensive than any inflammatory sermon.

      Many white Americans seem concerned that Mr. Obama, who seems so reasonable, should enjoy the company of Mr. Wright, who seems so militant, angry and threatening. To whites, for example, it has been shocking to hear Mr. Wright suggest that the AIDS virus was released as a deliberate government plot to kill black people.

      That may be an absurd view in white circles, but a 1990 survey found that 30 percent of African-Americans believed this was at least plausible.


      Much of the time, blacks have a pretty good sense of what whites think, but whites are oblivious to common black perspectives.

      What’s happening, I think, is that the Obama campaign has led many white Americans to listen in for the first time to some of the black conversation — and they are thunderstruck.

      All of this demonstrates that a national dialogue on race is painful, awkward and essential. And that dialogue needs to focus not on clips from old sermons by Mr. Wright but on far more urgent challenges — for example, that about half of black males do not graduate from high school with their class.

      Then maybe we can achieve our goal of getting, finally, to the point where there is “not a black America and not a white America... . There’s the United States of America.”>


    • QWAK,my post on GIM for the ones who are LOOSING IT. ;)

      What you are NOW seeing and EXPERIENCING is "FRENZY"-- it is common and yet because of scale and lack of experience all too easy to get COUGHT UP in it with out realising that you are!:banghead:

      CHILL OUT --- SLOW DOWN! :yes:

      Mistakes are more EXPENCIVE than you IMAGIN and if you avoid them YOU can WALK away wile others RUSH in to the TRAP!:thinkey:

      This is a GREAT OPERTUNITY not so much to BUY and SELL as it is to LEARN so you will me more PREPARED in the FUTURE!:hahaha:

      You are now learning a very important lesson about YOUR SELF,about the world around you and how things REALY HAPPEN in stressfull situations!:thinkey:

      Drink it in, ABSORB IT, LEARN from IT--- because it WILL happen agen many times and in many ways, as we progress in to and THREW, what we ALL sence is COMING!

      The VALUE of what you learn and the ability to USE it, will be PRICELESS in the days to come!

      Try NOT to be a TUNA or at least be a SMART TUNA and when things calm down THEN do what seems BEST and by then it will seem SIMPLE even OBVIOUS!:wink:

      You will also learn to TRUST and DEPEND on your own JUDGMENTS and EVALUATIONS and THAT is beyond priceless as it IS realy what YOU are here to LEARN in LIFE!:congrats::grin:

      the DUCK

    • Yo duck.... EXCELLENT advice!!!! There is PANIC SELLING going on because people 'FAIL TO PLAN' and 'PLAN TO FAIL' during a 'FRENZY'.

      The talking heads were telling people prices were too high a few days ago! Now their gleeful that precious metals and oil are going down and asking if prices are too low to be buying.

      The poor confused public NEVER know what to do because they don't know who to listen to, other than the 'BOOB TOOB'.

      Will they EVER wake up?

    • QWAK For what it is worth THIS is how I see the current physiclr PM situation.
      As hard as it may seem at this moment I think most likely what we are seeing is the NET being pulled in and the TUNA directed in to the holding pen so a bit of FEAR and CONFUSION is catching and spreading.

      It is far from a shure thing and many things can happen so the TUNA WRANGLERS must be very carfull NOT to lose all or part of there catch because the NET slips or SHARKS cought in the net tare big holes in it.

      It would probably be best to just remain CALM and watch for an OPERTUNITY once things simmer down! Aparently there is NOT much you can do about it any way and it is seldom a smart thing to get cought up in any kind of FRENZY as at that point people just STOP THINKING and are OVER REACTING.

      IF this temporary trend continues then many will likely start selling because the price keeps going down and they get SCARED and they were just SPECULATING any way and were not TRUE BELIEVERS!

      When every one around YOU is losing there heads THAT is the time when being COOL and CALM counts the most, so LET IT PASS over YOU, then you will be prepared for the OPERTUNITYS that will present them selves.

      Keep a COOL TOOL and don't be a FOOL -- or a TUNA!

      the DUCK

    • QWAK,More on the current PM buying FRENZY.
      Dear Valued Customers,

      Due to the OVERWHELMING demand for precious metals, our online ordering system has been unable to keep up with our customers’ needs. We have had to disable the APMEX ordering system to allow us ample time to upgrade our site to accommodate the increased demand. We apologize for this temporary problem. In the mean time, we will be accepting telephone orders for the following items only as we have them available:

      1 ounce Gold American Eagles
      1 ounce Gold Canadian Maple Leafs
      1 Ounce Gold Krugerrands
      100 oz Silver Bars
      Misc Generic .999 Fine Silver
      90% Coin Silver

      During this time, we will have a minimum order of $5,000. We regret we have had to make this drastic change to our ordering process and rest assured, we are working expeditiously to correct the problem. As soon as we have our new site up and running, we will notify you via e-mail when you can again place orders online.

      You may contact us during normal business hours Monday – Friday 7:30 am – 4:00 pm cst. (800) 375-9006

      If you have existing orders with us, we have in-stock all items needed to fulfill our orders and are shipping them as scheduled. Once our new site is functional, we will be able to activate our complete inventory line.


      Scott Thomas
      President & CEO

      P.S. We are actively looking for new bullion inventory to purchase. If you have items that total $2,500 or more and are interested in selling, please call our trading offices at the number listed above. We are paying strong numbers for ALL Precious Metals!
      Scott Thomas
      President & CEO
      the DUCK

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