Thu, Jul 31, 2014, 10:02 PM EDT - U.S. Markets closed

Recent

% | $
Click the to save as a favorite.

The Coca-Cola Company Message Board

  • library_maven library_maven Sep 19, 1999 9:12 PM Flag

    Moody's confounds the skeptics

    Moodys Investors Service's ratings belie the
    amateur analysts on this board who are spreading nonsense
    concerning unmanageable debt levels, KO's demise, etc. Read
    this!


    http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/990916/s4.html

    Notice the second and third paragraphs:

    " The
    upgrades are based on CCE's increasing importance as the
    largest U.S. and international bottler in the Coca-Cola
    system and Moody's expectation that the already close
    strategic alignment between CCE and The Coca-Cola Company
    (KO) will continue to strengthen."

    "We also
    expect that the Coca-Cola system - which includes KO and
    its global bottling affiliates - will maintain an
    extraordinarily powerful brand franchise, increasingly efficient
    marketing and distribution capabilities, strong cash
    generation, and ample financial flexibility."

    Keep the
    faith, KO supporters! The bear noise will be subsiding
    as time goes on.

    SortNewest  |  Oldest  |  Most Replied Expand all replies
    • I've bought KO at $55 three times in the past few
      years,the first when the DOW was down 500 points.The last
      time was last week.

      The first time I sold at
      $75,the second at $65 and this time....who
      knows.

      One thing I notice from before was the gloomy posts
      at the time I bought.Then once the buying started,it
      was like everyone was dog piling on KO at once before
      it went higher.

      I don't know if I have a
      point but KO isn't going away,thats for damn
      sure.

      $55's been good to me with this one and slowing
      sales,competitive bashing manuvers or KO taking a quarter to write
      off any bad currency losses is just the chances I
      look for when investing with this one.

      It's
      been sideways quite some time and don't forget KO buys
      back stock when it gets cheap.

      A 32 PE is
      average as someone wrote,but sooner or later the rush to
      buy KO will again start and it happens fast and when
      things look their worst.

      Just rambling,


      mr_kilroy

    • KO for so many years, unless the shares are in a
      tax shelter, you will have to give Uncle Sam about
      18% of your gain. I'm pretty sure you know
      this.

      Many people say that the tax tail should not wag the
      investing dog but I do think you have to consider the tax
      consequences.

      As for the next five years, at some point
      KO's earnings will turn around and the stock stop
      falling at that point. What none of us knows is when that
      will happen and if it will happen before the stock
      goes much lower. At some point, if the stock continues
      to slide, there will be a point where investors
      begin to dump their shares. None of us knows where that
      point is or if the stock will hit it.

      What I do
      know is this. Over the past five years, KO's average
      PE has been 32 and it now is 42. By this measure,
      the stock is over-priced. The down-side risk is still
      high. What is different now is that the earnings are
      under pressure and they weren't when the PE was lower.
      The company had a lower multiple when it had earnings
      growth. This is not good for any current holder of this
      stock.

      The decision is yours and I wish you well. I hope
      that I've given you something to think about.

    • It's a bad time to sell. KO has reached the bottom and is due for a price reserval any time now. Hold it a few week and we may see a 10% bounce.

    • until the charts show it.

      Today, it was up
      a little but tomorrow it may be down a little. The
      trend, at this time, is down. How did you determine that
      the bottom has been reached?

      What I hate bout
      charts is that they make perfect sense when looking at
      the past but I do not feel they predict the future.
      Many investors do try to predict future moves with
      present charts but I fail to see the cup and handle that
      they use.

      It sound like you own the stock. I
      wish you luck. The bottom may be here, I just do not
      think so.

    • in December of 1998. If anyone is interested,
      read post 11027 and post 11028.

      I think that my
      posts of that time make it clear that KO was warning
      investors of its problems and that many KO investors
      ignored these warnings.

      I hate to see KO getting
      kicked around when the company went out of its way to
      tell the investment community what was happening.


      One more thing, check next to the By: and see that
      the ogden391 has a number one and not a lower case L.
      I did post those messages.

    • You seem to be the person that is most in the
      know on this board. I was wondering if you could give
      me some advice. I am interested in starting a
      position in KO. Is this a good time?

      Thanks in
      advance,
      Bill

    • the best time to buy a stock is. What I do know
      is that KO stock is under pressure, is 10 PE points
      above its five year average and has declining
      profits.

      I also want to buy the stock but I am waiting for
      one of two things, the PE to drop to the market
      average which is around 20 or for profits to improve.


      For me, this is a time to watch and wait. Even if I
      pay a little more for the stock in the future, my
      risk level will be lower. In truth, I expect to get in
      at a lower level but time may prove me wrong on
      this.

      Good luck.

    • "What I do know is that KO stock is under
      pressure, is 10 PE points above its five year average and
      has declining profits."

      The REASON the PE is
      higher than the five year average IS declining profits -
      the "E" in PE. You will often see the HIGHEST PEs
      near the earnings trough (ala Japan). This is the time
      you BUY - not sell - IMO.

      When the investments
      made by KO for the long-term continuation of its'
      global dominance start paying off, the PE will drop and
      the price will rise. Problem is, it will be too late
      for the Johnny come latelys to get aboard.

    • >>When the investments made by KO for the
      long-term continuation of its' global dominance start
      paying off, the PE will drop and the price will rise.
      Problem is,<<

      can they keep it
      rolling

      ...can they keep it rolling wihout lowering prices to
      consumers..(deflationary economy?) and/or if they must cut prices can they
      cut costs faster...and at what level might the game
      be over....or is a P/E of 100 reasonable for a
      "dominant new growth" co.....

    • "...can they keep it rolling wihout lowering
      prices to consumers..(deflationary economy?) and/or if
      they must cut prices can they cut costs faster...and
      at what level might the game be over....or is a P/E
      of 100 reasonable for a "dominant new growth"
      co....."

      Did you see the trade deficit numbers this AM? A new
      record high vs. an expected drop. Did you see the dollar
      continue its' tank job against the currency of the world's
      second largest economy? NO ONE produces their beverage
      more efficiently than KO. Therefore, NO ONE can cut
      prices without producing losses. Further, the tanking
      dollar is music to KO shareholder ears! You do know that
      KO has a 33% market share in China (where they have
      FIVE TIMES as many people as we do? You do know that
      China only has (7) eight ounce servings annually per
      capita vs. 149 for Japan and 395 for the US? I smell
      some mondo growth opps in China.

      Just look at
      the acceptance of KO in Mexico where there is 412
      servings per capita (more than the US even) where KO has
      invested heavily. Granted the water sucks in Mexico which
      helps, but there is going to be serious growth coming
      out of China. If KO merely got China up to 1/2 the
      per capital use of the US and Mexico and grew NO
      WHERE else, the stock would be a BARGAIN here.

    • View More Messages
 
KO
39.29-0.33(-0.83%)Jul 31 4:07 PMEDT

Trending Tickers

i
Trending Tickers features significant U.S. stocks showing the most dramatic increase in user interest in Yahoo Finance in the previous hour over historic norms. The list is limited to those equities which trade at least 100,000 shares on an average day and have a market cap of more than $300 million.
Tesla Motors, Inc.
NasdaqGSThu, Jul 31, 2014 4:00 PM EDT
El Pollo Loco Holdings, Inc.
NasdaqGSThu, Jul 31, 2014 4:00 PM EDT
GoPro, Inc.
NasdaqGSThu, Jul 31, 2014 4:00 PM EDT