I just showed you that the trend is up, and that is why I have so much paper profit, and so do most people. And the trend in metals and energy sources are all up, much of it due to inflation but the trend is still up. And if you haven't made any money in the last five years, you should quit investing. You have to be very ignorant to not have made money during this period. and you were not talking about trend. You said that your investments were down. So, talking about trend or otherwise, (and I don't see how your post can be interpreted to be talking about trends only), you are still a loser.