Honestly I'm looking at my statements from 2008 post crash and this stock is actually down from there. I'm not sure what is going on there but I can't imagine its good. Everything else I own has recovered beautifully, and this is slightly down. When I last followed it PNC had a huge stake and so that is a huge overhang of inventory. I don't have enough to worry about but I don't think you're going to get rich holding this. Good luck.