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Star Scientific, Inc. (CIGX) Message Board

  • cigxxx123 cigxxx123 Apr 10, 2011 11:53 AM Flag

    tomorrow we say good bye to single digits !

    our time has come .. we are now on the eve of a breakout beyond the dreams of many except those who know how to buy and hold luxury .. cigx is luxury

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    • I say the same!
      AGREE!!!!!!!

    • Me thinks you protest too much.

    • As I comment whenever it comes up, I can pretty much assure you that Star will return as much net income as possible as dividends. Mr. Williams has been said (several times, over years) to have said as much, and look at his 18 million or so shares. He's not going to sell them, and the tax situation is more favorable (right?) for dividends.

    • I agree and I think that will happen for sure.

      The reason this stock will not likely "shoot up and stay there" (I mean above the $5 level) without actual indication of revenue increases to back up the gains is its history.

      Though it may seem so to new arrivals, this is not a "start up" with great promise (so mere promise leads to high valuation). It was at one time. I bought it (and sold out at small loss on those) above seven dollars more than a decade ago (had revenue of $223M, a major tobacco firm B&W as partner in developing new products, etc. Then B&W became turncoat and weded RJR, the very co. Star was suing for infringement).

      Star DOES HAVE great promise, but also has a history (the stock pps) of being beaten down again and again, over more than a decade, by dirty dealing from tobacco, a certain Federal district court, pharma, anti-tobacco, being ignored by the press, and now being beaten down by press, too. I will add the pumping in "the new press", where people write things that never should be attributed to "press" because it gives the company a bad name (like writing "Cure for Alzheimer's", etc.). The latter does this company a terrible disservice.

      STILL and YET, at this time, most of the investors and onlookers here have been watching the stock for a long time, and they have become wary of "the beatings".

      I think even they are "beginning to believe" (CERTAINLY the big "independent" supporters like Tradewinds and Iroqois do : ), but it will take some actual indication of very significantly raise earnings near term (and to continue to increase long term), or the high likelihood of that (like the success of "Flint"), to move it permanently higher on the shoulders of general interest. Just my opinion, perhaps not popular with everyone, but let's talk about what is.

      UBU is right ... as shown by things like my arguments with those replying to the recent Wilkison article. People (unacquainted) see a tobacco company that thinks it's going to "cure" Alzheimer's (though NO ONE connected with the company or Roskamp has ever said or implied such ... it's all "press"). They don't look at who's doing the research, who's on the board, etc.

      And yes, that time IS COMING. FLINT IS COMING ... and there are other chances (court, BDL, Alz. developments ... as you both enumerate) possible in the interim.

    • The plus for reclassification as Biotech or Pharmaceutical is precisely because the rest of the Tobacco stocks pay dividends and have financials that look completely different from Star.

      Star is really closer to the Biotech financial model and if evaluated with that business lifecycle in mind, would likely already be trading higher.

      As a bonus, the mutual funds that have commitments to their customers to avoid 'sin-stocks' might be able to consider CIGX as an ethical part of the solution to the tobacco-use problem, rather than simply passing them by because they are in the Tobacco industry classification.

    • nothing wrong with lo mo pm they pay nice dividends .. smokers exist to pay fed taxes and contribute to the economy by purchasing junk food and soda @ 5 times the avg consumption .. we need smokers to move the economy upwards .. as the move backwards !!!

    • If only logic applied to stock prices... but alas it is not so.

      CIGX will someday reach a high peak (soon I hope) but there will be valleys along the way. The same predators that drove down prices last week are always looking for a quick profit through synchronized algorithmic trading, old-fashioned bear raids and disinformation campaigns - witness the false Bloomberg headline and hundreds of basher posts last week.

      Buckle-up, it's gonna be a bumpy night...

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      • "If only logic applied to stock prices... but alas it is not so.

        CIGX will someday reach a high peak (soon I hope) but there will be valleys along the way. The same predators that drove down prices last week are always looking for a quick profit through synchronized algorithmic trading, old-fashioned bear raids and disinformation campaigns - witness the false Bloomberg headline and hundreds of basher posts last week.

        Buckle-up, it's gonna be a bumpy night..."

        ______________________

        We need to contact the SEC, FINRA and Attornies General and ask them to look into the Bloomberg irregularity and check names with posters on here, trading records, who naked shorted, who e-mailed who, connect the dots and throw a bunch of sorry asses in prison. Get after the regulators tomorrow - be an advocate. Send them the names of bashers on here who consistently LIE and see if they are colluding with others.

      • i think with new insider buys and a bit of news we head into low teens i have seen this before ... a big name like it or not MOVES this type of penny stock and sharp is a well known name .. mark my words he will buy a large amount that rocks this stock upward ...

 
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