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  • dick.morris82 dick.morris82 Mar 16, 2012 10:20 PM Flag

    Nuke John from IV, is predicting >5,000

     

    bottles of Anatabloc sold - per day - by Q3 2012.

    And he says that is being conservative.

    I like Nuke John's optimistic posts, but to me, that just seems extreme, even impossible, given Q3 starts in less than 3.5 months.

    We are now over 6.5 months into selling Anatabloc and are averaging for March roughly 125-130 ORDERS through Star's web site per day and approximately 80-110 ORDERS per day from GNC (using last data before the 999 change). This is after a full six months of being out on the market, Couples endersment, etc.

    If we use Nuke John's bottle multiplier of 1.6 bottles per order, that gives us 356 bottles per day in sales using our latest data (the averages of the two above range).

    Nuke John figures Star will sell 1,920 bottles per day by Q3 through Star's web site, and 3,200 per day total through GNC (3,000 from their stores).

    Without something to cause the sales to EXPLODE upward, like FLINT data published in a medical journal showing UNBELIEVABLE results, I just don't see how we get close to that number, so quickly. Interim results won't do it since it is still the company talking and not an independent, reputible third party.

    I'm not trying to bash NJ, and I'm not an IV subscriber so can't respond directly to him and figured I'd throw it out there for others to chew on. I'm predicting we will be doing about 1,000 per day by Q3 or almost triple what we are now doing.

    Like the skiing Doctor mentioned yesterday, I think price along with exceptional third-party study results are the major stubling blocks keeping Anatabloc from really taking off. Once we get more confirmation of Anatabloc's effectiveness and a lowering of the price, I do think the sky is the limit. It just will take another year or three. IMO.

    Here is NJ's post: http://investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=2013&mn=2784&pt=msg&mid=11539021

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    • lol oops

    • Chipper, it'll be 20,000+/week if any of the other nationwide Rx stores start putting Anatabloc on their shelves.

    • "Now you can call me a pumper because I think theyl sell 2000 bottles a week thru the GNC brick and mortar stores but its not such a longshot is it?"

      kawallski,
      Boy, you do have a burr under your saddle, don't you? You keep missing my point, which is:

      I agree that Star will EVENTUALLY sell 2000 bottles per week at the GNC stores. But WHEN is the question. You agree with NJ that it's going to happen in a few months or even now. I say it will take longer. That's the only difference between our outlooks: time.

      You and NJ have NO basis for concluding that the hockey stick is happening NOW. Other than hope.

      By the way, smarty---SD does NOT equal South Dakota. SD = San Diego. And yes, I'm taking San Diego as one GOOD example of the lack of awareness of Abloc in the GNC stores.

    • What about all the dog and pomy shows for health pro's

      with rooms supposedy full.With John Hopkins speakers.

      Where have you been?

      BTW How did they blow over $100k per day?

      Blow up a brand new Mercedes at lunch X 365...LOL

    • Like Pfizer's detail reps going to get the
      word out to MD's, Anatabloc has not had the
      advantage of retails sales reps.

      How many people have you told about Anatabloc
      by word of mouth? How many enthusiastic message
      board types are there out there? We tend to
      project our world to the bigger world out there.

      An enthusiastic sales rep could probably reach
      an equivalent number of people in a busy location
      in two days... speculation, yes but I do think the
      potential that NJ speaks of is there and
      am guardedly optimistic.

    • kawallski, take chipper's remarks with a grain of salt, he's an options player so his remarks are slanted towards his options play and he does play the bearish side. One of these days he's gonna get caught on the wrong side of the trade, but hey, that's how he plays the game.

      Personally, I think Nuke John's projection is optimistic for the GNC sales, but, could be way low overall if other Rx stores pick up Anatabloc for their shelves, like maybe Walgreens, WalMart, etc?

      Projections is speculation and the final outcome could be altogether different going forward.

      As we know it, sales of Anatabloc is on the rise thru the current sales outlets and chipper can attest to that, he's been doing a great job collecting data here on our board, so for now it's looking really good going forward and if a Walgreens should put Anatabloc on their nationwide stores, well, sales are gonna keep climbing that much more. :)

    • Is 2000 bottles per day versus current 300 per day a hockey stick in the making? I'd say absolutely, yes.

      So, we just need your "if this AND if that" to turn into reality.

      Maybe you should go buy AAPL if you want surefire reality?

      Here's NJ's latest post, where he says that the hockey stick effect is happening RIGHT NOW. Right now, folks.

      You write that like we should gather the townfolk together and go hang that SOB! such negativity?

      http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?...

      (Funny, but the online orders don't show that effect).

      If a convenience store near your house had a sign out front that says "buy the winning lottery ticket TODAY AT 3:45 pm THIS AFTERNOON! I BET YOU WOULD SHOW UP wouldnt you? BUT THE WORLD DOESNT WORK THAT WAY DOES IT?

      Here are two posts on IV that show that Abloc is well known in some areas of the country but not others. (Here in SD my phone survey of 5 GNC stores showed that 1 was getting some in 2-3 weeks, while 4 others have never heard of it).

      Youre using SD as an example of Anatabloc not being well known? OOOOOOOOOOkay

      I'm realistic, yet I do have big hopes for a positive outcome for this company and its stock price as I always do with any small company that Im interested in. If Im not interested I just stay out but hey thats just
      me. Now you can call me a pumper because I think theyl sell 2000 bottles a week thru the GNC brick and mortar stores but its not such a longshot is it? Im even going to step out on a limb and say they sell a bottle or two in the great state of SD. sis boom ba rah rah rah!!!!!!! Go TEAM ANATABLOC AND GETM FRED!!!!!

    • Separate.

    • "if they are going to roll it out to all GNC 7000+ stores and each store averages selling one bottle every 3 days(approx 14000 bottles per wk 2000 per day) would produce the hockey stick effect wouldnt it?"

      Is 2000 bottles per day versus current 300 per day a hockey stick in the making? I'd say absolutely, yes.

      So, we just need your "if this AND if that" to turn into reality.

      Here's NJ's latest post, where he says that the hockey stick effect is happening RIGHT NOW. Right now, folks.

      http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=2013&mn=2910&pt=msg&mid=11563455

      (Funny, but the online orders don't show that effect).

      Here are two posts on IV that show that Abloc is well known in some areas of the country but not others. (Here in SD my phone survey of 5 GNC stores showed that 1 was getting some in 2-3 weeks, while 4 others have never heard of it).

      http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=2013&mn=2911&pt=msg&mid=11563704

      http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=2013&mn=2912&pt=msg&mid=11563773

    • I get the impression that with what Izzy is suggesting (and I don't think he is far wrong), we may be looking at 2 plus years before seeing any great price movement (excluding any settlement/agreements with BT). That means the shorts get to wreck havoc on us that much longer.It gets depressing sometimes. I've been long for a couple of years and it would be nice to establish something price wise that would discourage most of the shorts!
      Regarding the FDA and all of their rules, wouldn't it be prudent to focus more on foreign sales while navigating through their maze?

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