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  • midav2752 midav2752 Dec 26, 2012 6:42 AM Flag

    OT "Fiscal Cliff"

    So all these private companies that engage in supplying the Tax Payer funded end products like ships, planes, submarines, are going to be hit with certain "cuts" with their "little people" that build these things either losing jobs or seeing a increase in their taxes. And the small private businesses that cater to these "little people" (like dry cleaners, restaurants,car dealers,home improvement box stores, clothing stores, auto repair shops etc,) are going to see less demand from all the "little people" losing their livelyhood from that sector forcing them to lay off some of their "little people" who in turn affect even more "private enterprises" who also see less "little people" buying their products. It looks to me the pin action goes on forever on this hit on "little people". I've always headed out to Virginia when I wanted to build Naval Vessels or Mississippi. Both Northrop Grumman and Ingles depend on the United States taxpayer to fund these expensive vessels. But a lot of the steel, paint, pipe, and cable come from other "private enterprises" in other "red states". GE supplies the the engines, Arizona has General Dynamics, the Boeing Co, and several other "private defense manufacturing companies" supply components that will have to "cut" their "little people". Funny how many "little people" in "red states" and "private businesses" are going to be affected when the wealthy refuse to fund defense programs and instead demand "cuts" in federal spending. That's a lot of "little people" not attending sporting events manned by wealthy sports stars. lot's of "little people" not buying cds or going to concerts. Lot's of little people not buying anything they don't absolutely need not by choice or greed but because they have to remain solvent to eat, pay rent and in short survive. It certainly looks like small private businesses better worry less about tax increases than the lack of patrons that they depend on to make their living. On the refinery front................less demand for energy.

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    • MB may be more receptive to more concise and less frequent expression of your thoughts on matters political.

    • The ongoing inane rantings of the board "progressive" Lunatic!

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      • I don't think so pound. I doubted a minority, a black man, was even electable to the highest office in the land once, let alone twice. It just shows you how radical this "new progressive" republican agenda you support has become. It's a great departure from republican policies of the past and people don't like it......................no matter how much special interest and lobbiest money isput up to peddle it. It's today's most important topic and affects this stock and stocks in general more than any other subject save maybe the debt ceiling fight...........coming up early in the new year.

      • I don't think so pound. I truly didn't believe a black man was "electable" even once, let alone twice. That alone should tell you how insane the "new progressive" but radical to the core republican agendas have become. It's a insane departure from the republican leadership in the past century and the gig is up. When your new elected leaders are still screaming for "cuts" in red states after the new year and defense has taken it's (mandated by previous republican leadership cut's in defense) then I guess the seniors get their turn. Cut social security to the bone.........but only in the red states that are still screaming for "cuts". But make sure all the "defense cuts" are made in the states that want them (the red states) and are in fact screaming for them through the representatives in congress they elected to serve them!

 
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