Review the VLO published cracks from there web site, you will see that Q1 is very similar to Q4. Also the new hydrocracker unit at the Valero Port Arthur Refinery has successfully and safely begun operations on 12/18/2012 and is increasing toward planned rates on schedule. This unit was not part of the Q4 operation. At any rate Q4 posted $1.88 for Q4 without the hydrocracker. Q1 should easily outpace last year Q4 IMO.