Look at 1-year charts for VLO HFC TSO PSX WNR CVI.
If we keep hurting,we may form some head and shoulders patterns soon. And it is likely that if one of these fails,the others will follow like dominoes.The daily volatility of the refiners shows mass manipulation going on,so I consider them all to be traders,and not investments at this stage,
Look back at posts for the last month and you see posts of people reporting how they just bot shares,and now you see how wrong that was.
Another item: people on all boards arguing about who knows more about the stocks and the bickering goes on and on,Who cares a ratzazz?? If one is so damn smart, ,mortgage your home and go all in! Or go all-in on a short, And, if you make a lot of money,be happy but don't bore us all. Go count your money,then find another play and make more.
PRIDE GOETH BEFORE A FALL says a best-sellin book!
Whenever I read a post saying "I just bot in," ,I think 'get out the bandages...he is catching falling knives'.
The real winners are too busy making money to be wasting time bragging about it on these boards.