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  • dumpsterjuice01 dumpsterjuice01 May 12, 2003 11:58 PM Flag

    xbox live

    Not supporting xbox live is a massive mistake by EA. XBox live has far more users than PS2 online which requires the user to buy additional equiptment, plus it allows users to use regular modems which drags the service to a crawl. For playing games online other than with a computer, Xbox live is the way to go.

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    • Even as of last Xmas it was around 4, I can go dig up in the info if you'd like because i'm possitive of it. And no, PS1 games weren't included in the 4+ figure I refer to, I try and be fair with info I put out and not twist anything around to suit my own purposes.

    • those were stats i had at christmas and i apologize if they are currently wrong. you also cannot include old ps1 games as "new" attachs to the PS2. it has to be new software purchased. Unfortunately for the investment community both companies (Sony and MS) can spin the stats the way they want them.

    • "ps2 2.x games"

      The PS2 attach rate is well over 4 last I checked lol. And the Xbox rate is lower. If Xbox LIVE owners attach rate is higher that's great, but 500k out of 10m owners hardly means Xbox's overall attach rate is higher than PS2's; it isn't. Never mind the nearly 1m forced bundles at Xbox launch and all the freebie games lately (do they include those in attached rate; i bet they do!)

    • <<On a side note I am curious as to what people think of the Music Mixer that MS is going to be selling for $40. I could care less about it but I am afraid my roommate is going to hear about it and start using it.>>

      That will certainly be a "family" purchase. I look forward to singing a few songs about ERTS' "glory days" and posting them for the Bagholders to listen to.

      I already have one song in mind and already written:
      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
      "When the Bagholders Cry"
      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Composed by Bullkiller_1929
      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Little loser
      dry you cryin eyes

      How can I explain the pain you feel inside?
      'Cause you were conned into this piece of shit
      Where man is cheat'in man but no one knows just why.

      What have you become
      just look what you have done

      All of your kids' tuition destroyed, you must save again.

      When the BAGHOLDERS cry
      let them know shorts tried

      'Cause when the longs start to sing
      then the new dumping begins.

      Little loser
      you must show the way
      To a better day for all the other BAGHOLDERS.
      'Cause you were born for the world to see
      That if you grow a brain we all can trade in harmony.

      No more stupid posts and forget you dumbass jokes

      One united board under Bullkiller.

      When the BAGHOLDERS cry
      let them know shorts tried

      'Cause when the longs start to sing
      then the new dumping begins.

      What have you become
      just look what you have done

      All that tuition you destroyed you must save again.
      No more stupid posts and forget you dumbass jokes

      One united board under Bullkiller.

      When the BAGHOLDERS cry
      let them know shorts tried

      'Cause when the longs start to fight
      Shorts let them know it ain't right.
      When the BAGHOLDERS pray
      let them know its way too late

      'Cause when the BAGHODLERS sing
      then we know they are still dumping.

    • actually they are catching that very very fast. last statistics that i saw were...
      game attach rates...
      xbox LIVE 7 games per account...$42 min. to MS for licensing.
      xbox only 4 games...$24 for licensing.
      ps2 2.x games...$18 for licensing.
      ps2 w/ online adapter...unknown.

      These were attach rates about last nov/dec. don't remember. If someone has a link to newer numbers I would really appreciate it.
      *Note: Licensing fees are $6-8 per title sold on that platform. Its hard to say what MS's internal margin on games are. Obviously after paying 300M for Rare they will have to sell a lot of video games or license some very successful movie spinoffs...to break even.

    • Return to Castle Wolfenstein for xbox.

      On a side note I am curious as to what people think of the Music Mixer that MS is going to be selling for $40. I could care less about it but I am afraid my roommate is going to hear about it and start using it.

      Music Mixer Details...btw I would have been looking for ERTS to produce this if they had been on board the LIVE show. Its a shame.
      http://xbox.ign.com/articles/401/401793p1.html

    • That looks relatively complete as far as I know. I think Frequency is also online for PS2.

    • > To be sure, that base of 500,000 subscribers to Xbox live will not decrease (maybe a 1% chance of that happening) so Microsoft will book $25 MILLION a year on Xbox live subscriptions alone.

      And in 2 years, it will almost pay for that $100/box they are losing to sell them for $199/each.

    • They will stop including it soon, so the cost of Xbox live will be $49.99.

      Head set is not required to play online games.

      Hmm, writing it down actually clued me in on the obvious reason for excluding the headset from the package soon:

      Microsoft probably expects a surge in subscriptions before it expunges the headset from the deal.

      People trying to get in for the "limited time offer!" thing. Smart. Doesn't surprise me though. MS has been practicing smart business for a long time.

      To be sure, that base of 500,000 subscribers to Xbox live will not decrease (maybe a 1% chance of that happening) so Microsoft will book $25 MILLION a year on Xbox live subscriptions alone.

      In case you wanted to keep track, just remember that for every extra 100,000 subscribers to Live, Microsoft books $5 MILLION more in revenue each year, and they get it upfront, so you have to add interest to that amount (1.5% x 5,000,000 = $75,000)

    • I don't care if you did miss something, that's an awesome post. Thanks jeff_b_shaw!

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