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  • female30303 female30303 Oct 7, 2005 2:11 PM Flag

    xbox360 volume to be reduced?

    saw this over on the atvi board but haven't been able to confirm it. here's the post: http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=4687982&tid=atvi&sid
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    • He's saying d) play new games for old generation platforms. Publishers will make these games to wring more $$ out of the installed base than they did last time. Makes sense to me.

    • If you are right and this is the slowest acceptance in history which do you predict that the users will do? Upgrade, stop playing games, or play the same old games they have?

    • "Now regardless of how much better the new platforms are very soon you will not be able to buy new games for PS2 and Xbox. So you have few choices. Upgrade, stop playing games, or play the same old games you have."

      This is addressed by my point that publishers realize how many millions they left on the table on the last transition. I think this will be the "slowest" acceptance of a new console in the history of the industry. PS2 with 40 mill install base needs a game to sell 1% to hit 400k units. 400k units recoups dev costs and already starts paying royalties. Hmmm...... :)

    • Agreed. There are a lot of great looking games out there that are just not fun. A turd by any other name...

      The thing to point out is that EA's games are not consistently in the top ten because they are turds. They are fun, and that is why they sell so well.

      Now regardless of how much better the new platforms are very soon you will not be able to buy new games for PS2 and Xbox. So you have few choices. Upgrade, stop playing games, or play the same old games you have.

      How many people haven't bought a PS2 just because it wasn't "that much better" than their PS1? Eventually you have to bite the bullet and buy one if you want to keep playing.

    • "Both platforms are hands down "worth buying and throwing your old one out" better than the previous generation, that is for sure."

      Debatable. The new hardware are graphics powerhouses but might not be the leaps and bounds above previous when it comes to the guts of the game. A polished turd is still a turd. If games arent advancing in the gamplay areas, consumers aren't going to be happy.

      Additionally go back to the launch of the 3DO...high priced, incomplete box = failed miserably. If the price is too high for a box that does not come with all the extras, it's got a hard road ahead.

      Additionally publishers learned their lessons from last transition. Millions of dollars were left on the table, and I don't see them abandoning those dollars as quickly.

      my nickel

    • you make a good point rafael. i just think the price tag on these systems is quite high. i think it might take a while for the next gen systems to really start selling well, when the price drops a bit. and as i've mentioned before, when halo 3 comes out, xbox 360 sales should recieve a nice boost. helping erts of course. i still think this stock is really going to move 2Q of '06, but i also believe the stock might be ready to rebound back to about 60, based on the history of the charts.

    • The demos at E3 were impressive. If you could see what has progressed since then you would have a hard time picking your jaw off the floor.

      PS3 is still the better hardware platform this go-around. Xbox has the head start on Live but make no mistake, Sony will close that gap. Xbox also has a head start on launch but I don't believe that will win the war on this generation.

      Both platforms are hands down "worth buying and throwing your old one out" better than the previous generation, that is for sure.

      Either way it doesn't really matter who "wins" the console war. In the end EA will be the real winner. EA has seen hardware platforms come and go and still is the most lucrative business in the game industry. Madden first ran on the Apple II in 1989. Since that time EA has made the game available on numerous other gaming platforms including an assortment of Apple computers and PCs, the Commodore 64, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Amiga, 3DO Multiplayer, Sony PlayStation, Sega Saturn, and Nintendo 64, Sony Playstation 2, the Microsoft XBOX, PSP, and Nintendo DS. Most of those are all gone now yet Madden continues to top the charts.

      That's why they say, "It's in the game" ;)

    • >>Show of hands; who went to E3 this year?<<

      Haven't missed one yet.

    • Please tell me you are joking. I would not be mildly surprised if several of the people on this board are developing for or know people who are developing for both of those platforms and have a pretty good idea of how much better they are than the previous generation.

      Show of hands; who went to E3 this year?

      Best of luck to all.

    • i don't think anyone here really knows enough about x360 or ps3 to really determine how they are going to sell. i mean, the two next gen systems haven't even been reviewed, and most gamers will make their decision on whether they will or will not invest the 400+ dollars to buy the systems and a game or two, depending on the reviews, and word of mouth. personally, i just don't see how much improvement the next gen systems could be over ps2 and xbox. the graphics are already very good, and there is very little room for improvement.

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