Yours was just the kind of message I was looking for. I agree with all your points. For message 16 I think it was, -so far Ultima would not be a huge chunk of ERTS revenues but I am extremely impressed at how it is being recieved! They have many other titles to ddrive thier revenues. NHL 98 is supposed to be one of the most amazing and the only computer Hockey Game to buy. The graphics are supreme. Trader J1212, I was holding on a month ago for the ride above 40 like you said and then it didn't come. Did you read the article in the WSJ about gaming?