It's doubtful you'll ever see the FVE board at fire Mackay. He's been around a long time, in different capacities. RMR, SNH, FVE. Families with incestious relationships usually don't drift far apart. Since the original spinoff from SNH, increasing shareholder value has never been a priority, so you have to pick and chose where where to play it. They've been talking up occupancy at their presentations so we'll see where it leads. Looks like it just struck 5 bucks today. Now, how about all those mutual fund managers that will be able to dive in. How exciting is that. Yea, I'm being sarcastic.