Does anyone know when, if ever, Chiquita will get any relief from the illegal quotas/license system imposed by the EU? The
WTO issued some rulings favorable to Chiquita but apparently nothing has changed. Is it true that certain Carribean countries
(allied with France) are somehow being subsidized by this quota system at the expense of companies like Chiquita? Is it true that
the French are subsidizing certain Carribean Banana Economies at the expense of Chiquita and the European Banana eaters (who
overpay for thier bananas)? I say let the lowest price bananas be delivered first! If the quotas are lifted and Chiquitas stock goes
way up I promise to take a Carribean vacation.
What are you talking about? None of the land at
"the Wedge" site is privately owned. Lindner has an
interest because of ownership of property that is
relatively nearby, but that is common knowledge.
should also be stated that Lindner has a minority
onwership interest in the Cincinnati Reds.
You two have a fine point of your own when you
say that Dole and Clinton should stand up for an
American company - but the point is that Lindner paid for
this influence with contributions to both parties and
even bragged to the prez of another nation about his
influence with Clinton and others.
I don't see how
CQB's tax payments have any thing to do with their
ethical standards or humanitarianism - am I missing
something or are you guys reaching a little?
read everything that I've linked to and perhaps you'll
get the idea... and no I don't forgive the Enquirer
for their own lack of ethics and that is why the
story has been retracted. But, in all cases, the FACTs
and TRUTH stand above both companies and airing the
allegations (with the understanding that the info was stolen)
may spark some change of its own.
till the heavens fall'
Someone needs to speak out forcefully against
KickStart and his/her ilk. Not one word was said about the
admitted unethical acts of the Enquirer reporters. Sounds
like a big double standard. They contintue to single
out and "scapegoat" one company (Chiquita) for
universal social problems (unfortunately farm laborors are
the underclass and I believe it's this way
everywhere). KickStart never did provide an answer as to why
nothing has been done about California farm laborors low
wages and hideous working conditions. I'm glad you
articulated the important fact that Chiquita is an American
company that would be paying U.S. taxes on its profits
(if it could only make any). The EU trade practices
provide windfall profits to European companies at a
crippling cost to U.S. companies like Chiquita. I believe
President Clinton is a very smart and decent person and,
contrary to what KickStart says, to go to bat for Chiquita
(Dole, etc.) is clearly the right thing to do. If
America won't go to the defense of its own
taxpayers/citizens, our whole country is in big trouble.
Dear KickStart - you sound like a reporter who
possible works for the Enquirer --- God forbid that a
large company does something wrong --- But you sure
seem to back a newspapaer that has admitted to wrong
doing. Did you every wonder why the newspaper had to go
to Detroit to get an Arch Bishop to slam Chiquita.
Why not one from Cincinnati, Indy, Louisville are
many others who are close to Chiquita's home office.
As far as the EU quota system and the "POOR"
countries that would lose so much money - been to some of
those countires...from the prices they charge for
drinks on the beach, they will never miss the banana
money. Also saw some of the Presidential Palaces - these
countries aren't as poor as the Enquirer has led you to
believe. Lets not forget the quota - with all of your
insight and wisdom, have you once thought that the one
organization that has more to gain from Chiquita losing face
with the WTO than any other is the EU (who is getting
$20 U.S. FOB for bananas today in Europe). - I wonder
who backed the cost of this investigation by the
Enquirer. I'm sure that Chiquita has dealing like all other
big companies which have dirty laundry. But remember,
they are a U.S. owned company and should have the
support of Bob Dole and Bill Clinton - or would you
rather they lose money while oversea's companies bring
in the profits.
there was nothing slanderous about those
articles, except for the poor presentation of the issue of
shipboard drugs. The article was a bit sensationalistic but
was ON THE MONEY on all counts. Too many names, too
many conversations, and the only thing to be said by
the company is that they STOLE the email messages.
Please tell me how you steal email
messages????????????????? 2,000 of them to be exact.
obviously given to the reporter by someone with a BIG
Honkin' axe to grind. Perhaps one of the people who had
been recently fired, as the articles
The only thing it didnt mention was Lindner's secret
ownership of the land that the new Cincinnati Stadium will
be sitting on. I'm sure the Enquirer won't print
THAT story now.
Believe it folks, as I've
hinted at for a while, those stories were DEAD ON
I'm surprised that cqb decided to sue
though, they won. I can't believe that they would risk
the discovery process by pursuing action against the
reporter. I mean hell, they've ruined his career, but they
are obviously being vengeful, and mark my words it
will come to HAUNT them for a long, long, time.
You folks had better keep an eye on any timelines for
any legal action related to this. As soon as they
have to introduce evidence, all hell will break loose,
and this stock will melt like those horrible freezer
pops that cost us money in 1988-89.
and I don't believe your really such a
humanitarian as you imply. So the wages of banana workers
aren't that high. Do you know how much farm laborers in
California earn? It cant be that much, the living conditions
are bad and the work is backbreaking. You really want
to solve the worlds problems or you just some kinda
of a corporation bashing nutcake carrying out a
vendetta? The idea that profits are evil I thought was
discredited along time ago. Poor unprofitable companies don't
normally lead to prosperity for the bottom rung of the
ladder. I thought the Enquirer article was biased and
Chiquita has (or will have) the $10 million to show for
it. I hope they make that slandering reporters life
(Thanks Sawaddee98 - the article was
...And I can show you how its an injustice here - we
have a U.S. newspaper cowering in the face of the
bought-and-paid-for influence of a multinational company. YOUR 1st
amendment rights are being trampled right on our front
yard. Its victims are no longer only the poor brown and
black skins living out miserable lives whose only
meaning was to feed the profit machine of a wild-eyed
It makes me sick to my stomach to think
that CQB stockholders could be left thinking 'profits
might rise if only we could get a better grip on those
labor factions that just aren't interested in being
Yeah, right. When were 123
families displaced by bulldozers in your neighborhood? See
the light yet?
The "squatters" you referred to are the people
who lived in the Tacamiche community in Honduras for
several generations. They were evicted by the Honduran
military at the request of Chiquita. Legal ownership of
the land was in dispute (and still is
The term "squatters" came from a Chiquita press
release at the time of the conflict (about 2 years ago, I
I know a little about the story from a friend who
visited Tacamiche before and after the
Obviously, Dole, or whichever company gave you the
information, picked it up from Chiquita (how would they know
how long those people lived
Misinformation can come from all sides, not just the press.
You make CQB seem so innocent and victimized...
get real -
See Time Magazine, Jan 22, 1996
v147 n4 p54(1) -
I have no excerpt here, but
it claims that Lindner has received very special
treatment from Dole and Clinton as he fought quotas and
import restrictions in Europe and Columbia.
also - The Wall Street Journal, May 11, 1998 n93
pB4(W) pB14(E) col 3 (11 col in) entitled: 'Chiquita
Brands confirms that SEC is investigating company's
practices.' (no excerpt here)
The Enquirer story
originally ran on 05/03/98 and was 18 freaking pages... I
don't think it was all fiction.
research I did garnered this interesting little story
about a Detroit Bishop who was appalled that the
Cincinnati archdiocese would accept a $1.5 million
contribution from CQB. I am apt to believe someone of such
character, when he states he can corroborate the charges by
This is only an excerpt
National Catholic Reporter, May 15, 1998 v34 n28
Calling it "blood money," Auxiliary Bishop Thomas
Gumbleton of Detroit has denounced donations to Catholic
institutions from the Chiquita Brands Banana Co. and its CEO,
Carl H. Linder Jr.
Gumbleton told the Enquirer
that Chiquita is "an evil institution for exploiting
the poor." He said the newspaper's charges track with
his observations from extensive travels in Latin
America, including visits to Chiquita farms in Honduras.
Other charges in the Enquirer report
secretly controls dozens of supposedly independent
companies, usually in violation of Central American laws on
land security and national security;
environmental agreements to the contrary, Chiquita uses
pesticides that threaten workers and residents;
local coroner's report confirms that a Chiquita worker
died last year in a banana field after exposure to
* Chiquita transport ships
have been used to smuggle cocaine into Europe, though
without the company's knowledge;
* workers have
been harassed and brutalized by company-employed
* Lindner and his family have
made legal but controversial donations to political
figures seeking help in a dispute over banana tariffs.