I actually think it was the late Ken Oshman who made the big mistakes with the company. Sege simply inhereted a company that was not going to compete on the big stage. The fact that Sege has steered the company into partnerships, and is focusing more on sub systems rather than NES meters has at least given them a chance to carve out a small piece of the pie. They will never be the huge success story that many of us envisioned 10 years ago, but maybe they can do enough business to justify a 400 million dollar buyout offer. I guess that depends on what ELO and Holley can do.