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  • KHospitaller KHospitaller Jul 25, 2005 10:50 AM Flag

    Please explain

    Okay, this morning, oil is down about .67; natural gas is down .20; and our SJT stock is up $1. I'm not complaining, just a little confused.

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    • "Over the past 150 years, there has been a goodly amount of intermarriage among Hawaiians, Portuguese, Tongans, Samoans, Asians and Filipinos, so many of our citizens are very multi-ethnic and their children are beautiful."

      ic4x - This is what James Michener expounded on at length in "Hawaii." It is true, as you say and he wrote. The mixing has produced a multitude of very attractive and handsome descendants.

    • ic4x -

      Thanks for your well-thought out (as usual) insight on ALEX...and Hawaii, overall. I do remember how friendly the people were every time I travelled there. I'll keep a sharp eye on ALEX.

      SanMarino

    • "Give every genuine Iraqi adult an equal share of the income."

      Etc. etc.

      How naive this suggestion is can readily be seen by reading this article:

      nybooks.com/articles/18150

      I'm not referring to any criticism of our govt. etc. and I'm not hoping to start a discussion.

      Just a review of how complex the situation there is.

      If you read the article, you may, for example, conclude that the phrase "genuine Iraqi" is utterly meaningless.

    • I agree 100% with your post !!! The only way IRAQ will ever get rid of teriorrist is for the PEOPLE
      to take responsibility for their own. Turn the MF
      in, no matter who he is - your son, nephew or cousin. The good old USA could stay in IRAQ for
      generations & never solve the problems of internal disputes. THere are 3 Arab ethnic groups
      there & THEY have to get together & decide what
      THEY want for THEIR country !!!!

    • That's exactly what I said, but I was pointing out that you would need to buy the stock before the ex-dividend date in order to receive the distribution.

      >So there's no confusion. Ex-div was NOT yesterday. It is today. It is always 2 days before the record date, not 3.

    • So there's no confusion. Ex-div was NOT yesterday. It is today. It is always 2 days before the record date, not 3.

    • Just another note on Hawaii --- it is perhaps the only state in the Union where every racial group is a minority, no group is more than about 30% of the total population: Caucasians the largest group, followed by Asians, Filipinos, and Native Hawaiians. Hawaiians are only about 15% of the State's population, and pure Native Hawaiians with 100% blood quantum are only 5% of the population. Sadly, there are only about 60,000 pure Native Hawaiians in the state, compared to an estimated 700,000 or more several centuries ago.

      There is a recent influx of Hispanics to Hawaii, especially on the Big island, most of them undocumented aliens who work in agriculture, construction and ranching. As a group, they are very congenial and courteous and appear to be good citizens, it is rare to see a Hispanic name in the police logs. There also has been a migration of people from the Marshall Islands who have a social security number because it is a US territory; very nice people as well, though some have brought leprosy with them from their native land --- contrary to popular belief, leprosy is not very communicable and is a treatable disease in the early stages.

      Over the past 150 years, there has been a goodly amount of intermarriage among Hawaiians, Portuguese, Tongans, Samoans, Asians and Filipinos, so many of our citizens are very multi-ethnic and their children are beautiful.

      As a consequence, Hawaii is a true melting pot and its depth of diversity is one reason this is such a hospitable place to live because our multi-ethnic people are so friendly and gregarious, or "akamai" as we say in Hawaii.

    • I have never paid much attention to ALEX, as far as I know there are no issues re: Native Hawaiians, in fact many have very good paying union jobs with ALEX.

      ALEX looks very expensive to me after a big run up; I don't trust Hawaii real estate, right now it looks to be at the peak of a huge bubble and Hawaii has a sordid history of massive real estate crashes; and though ALEX is coooking now in its shipping business, it is very sensitive to the state of the general economy and a company like ALEX can go downhill in just one quarter before you know what hit you --- look at what is happening in the oil tankers with day rates falling from $100,000 to $25,000 in the space of 60 days..

      Bottom line, too many intangibles and unknowns for me with ALEX, if I can't get a basic grasp of the company or can't read the tea leaves well into the future, I stay away.

    • <<All mineral rights were held by the tribe. An annual payment is made each year according to head rights. Rights that are inherited from generation to generation. >>>
      This raises the question of how to get peace in Iraq. Solution: Nationalize all oil, N.gas & minerals. Give every genuine Iraqi adult an equal share of the income. Assume about $1000 a month goes to each adult of Iraq. THEN TEACH THEM WHAT A TAX IS. Compensate for all terrorist attacks out of the citizens oil/gas income. The next month, explain that the current check will be cut to $900 due to payments due to compensate those hurt by recent terrorist attacks. ALL TERRORISTS WOULD THEN BE REPORTED and violence ends.
      BTW, who gets the oil/gas income: The royal family? the goat herders who owned the land, the Bathist Party? The Democrats that I know claim that Dick Chenny and the Bush's get it all???

    • ic4x -

      Would you mind sharing your thoughts on ALEX? Recently, it has gone up. I'm thinking it is mostly because the 'big boys' (read: Wall Street Whores) are watching it for its shipping division. What I don't understand is why the company is not credited for its successful real estate holdings. Could it be because it is not a "popular" company among native Hawaiians?

      Ciao!
      SanMarino

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