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  • nuevovida nuevovida Mar 27, 2004 1:21 PM Flag

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    • Way too many sicko's posting their political crap here and at other Message Boards.

      Here's an alternative:

      Subj: NEW YAHOO GROUP
      By: nuevovida
      Date: 03/27/04 01:18 pm

      A new Yahoo Group has been set-up for those who are tired of message boards...

      All are welcome...

      Group name: invest_in_china

      Group home page:

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      Join Now and Lets make this the only place needed for all Investors in China's Companys!!!

    • Hey man : You need to get laid, take it easy..
      Heeehee she bangs...
      Huba

    • You know what? I was so surprised to see that this is your response to my message. I thought you must have had a bad time doing something else. Finally, I made sure three times that the last line is:

      "Posted as a reply to: Msg 18947 by goumaiy"

      So, this message is for me. Ok, I urge you go back to read my messages,more carefully, that are specifically for you and I'd like you to answer my following questions:

      Did I mention any names of the us presidents?
      Did I mention any of the two numbers that you keep bringing up?
      Did I say or imply, by any means, that the us democracy is bad or good?
      I clearly indicated that I don't like chinese political system but you seem to imply that I do the oppsite by

      "how can you have democracy and be ruled by a one-party dictatorship (china)?"

      Did I say or imply, by any means, that the independence is wrong?

      As for if I care about what is happening between taiwan and china, I don't have a point to do so. I don't make my judgement simply based on the size of the territory as that would lead me to care more about Japan than about the US in WWII, which is against my belief.

      I don't quite get your statement

      >>In the big picture: Chinese saber rattling with landing 7 chinese on pacific island so US sends six long range B-52 bombers to Guam for first time in 30 years since Vietnam war. Tit for tat.<<

      I guess someone else may be more qualified to answer this. If someone can prove that the 7 chinese event was not organized by the government, then your statement becomes invalid, or an orange and apple comparison.

      I am sorry about your situation but I don't have to be interested in what you have been trying so hard to bring out ......

    • Oh..have you ever thought about how come China grew from Yangtze River region to its current size???

      It expanded not because of one or two politician like it.

      It expanded because it makes sense. No politician can stop the nature migration of Chiness people between artificial borders.

      This time, it won't be any different as well.

    • You can dream about independence, but it will only be a dream.

      Like it or not, without joining the greater China economic system SOON, Taiwan is dead.

      I just read an artical that a few years ago, Hong Kong merchant look down on tourists from China. Now, tourists from China as a group is the biggest spender in Hong Kong.

    • 1500 votes and Bush is elected, is that democracy?

      30,000 votes and green is president, is that democracy?

      What is democracy?

      Green got elected democratically what do I have to hide behind?

      how can you have democracy and be ruled by a one-party dictatorship (china)?

      Granted either green or blue could be elected and it would be the voice of the people what's wrong with trying to be independent?

      Green is trying to give the Taiwanese a chance to stand up and speak up. Blue in their cowardice way told people this would upset the Chinese. What's wrong with Independence?
      I suppose you don't care either.

      In the big picture: Chinese saber rattling with landing 7 chinese on pacific island so US sends six long range B-52 bombers to Guam for first time in 30 years since Vietnam war. Tit for tat.

      Like I said, invest in Taiwan--backed by Uncle Sam!


      Oh, TSM should be up today. Taipei is back to normal now that everyone's gotte things out of their system. No blood shed. Green and Blue will meet. Mainly so Blue could accept defeat. Here is the beginning of the end...

    • Here we go. Now it makes more sense to me. Based on what you told us, you don't seem to care about democracy, all you care is independence. As you indicated or implied, you're gonna vote for Chen no matter what ... then I don't see why you have to hide your true motive behind the statue of democracy ... end of the discussion of democracy.



      I have no point to be happy or unhappy about either side to be elected .... I just didn't seem to get an equality between democracy and discremination or alike ...

    • I am a so called "mainlander" who left Taiwan many years ago when I was 14.

      I read in the "world journal" today that in Taina, there is this neighhood that the majority are green supporters. There are 2 families in the block are blue supporters.

      After the election, the "green" supporters got together decide to all "not" talk to the "blue" supporters. Everytime when the blue family walk by the green houses, the green will taunt the blue in verbal abuses.

      If this is not IN-TOLERANT, I don't know what is.

      I hope that this is just an isolated incident. I hope that there are GREEN supporters working to change this type of "mindset".

      Otherwise, I feel very sad for the Taiwaness society. There will be no future in such a "redneck" place for anyone including the GREEN.

    • I agreed with you 100 % !

    • I think Green has been relatively tolerant of Blue's post election actions.

      Did 500,000 people march on the white house or the Capitol or the supreme court of the US after the Florida elections? It wasn't necessary.

      Permits are necessary in Taiwan for demonstration (sounds pretty civilized). The gathering before the presidential palace started without permits. Mayor MA of Taipei of course granted them rights to demonstrate retroactively. It was all orchestrated because Blue is willing to spill blood for their cause. Mayor Ma of Taipei knows better (he's blue, and he doesn't want the established Blue leaders to ruin his future shot at presidency) and he infact ordered and assume responsibility of dispersing the crowd before the presidential palace because their permit time ran out. No blood spilled, although they were forcefully removed, it was not violent. Only violence has been the attack on Central Elections Office.

      There is a course of action to be taken when something does not go right in a democracy and Taiwan, after decades of labor by Green, has now these avenues to take proper action. Blue of course, feels like they got cheated and they have to do something, but they dont' know what to do. So the easy thing is to have their supporters take to the streets.

      Taking to the streets does not accomplish anything. I'm sure Blue would have liked to see some blood spilled to make a point. Now that they've had their 500,000 people march they can all go and sit at the CKS Temple and wait for the results of the recount.

      There are many questions surrounding the events around election. And Green, in order to preserve dignity and legitimacy of their rule, would like to see the truth come out as well (at least some version that is acceptable). I think so far the events demonstrate tolerance of the Green towards Blue. Just because the vote is close and Abien didn't die, that doesn't automatically mean the election is rigged. It's hard today to rig elections in Taiwan.

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