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  • ashuar2001 ashuar2001 Jul 16, 2004 6:58 PM Flag

    rogermoore is a green pig and...(1)

    ... he needs to clean your own ass before he attacks others.

    We all hate those welfare recipients. But who are they? Here is a window to look at -- Of the profiles of 15 recipients listed in the report, 7 are from Hong Kong, 4 from Taiwan, and 4 from China. I even know a couple rich "Taiwanese parents (from Changhua) who transfered all of their money to their offspring before coming to the USA in order to qualify to live in a luxuary apartment for old people in California totally supported by the government. They even have cash allowance.

    Following are information from the link he provides:

    A. Definition of Chinese
    ��I am using the word Chinese in terms of ancestry, and thus including people from not only China but also Taiwan and Hong Kong��

    B. Profiles of Chinese Immigrant SSI Recipients

    Each profile below is an individual case, i.e. not a composite. All names of the seniors used are pseudonyms. All are current SSI recipients, except for a few cases in which I have stated that the senior is currently waiting to become eligible for SSI.
    This is of course anecdotal data. But I have chosen the profiles to comprise a reasonably representative sampling of the range exhibited in the much larger set of interviews I conducted.
    The profiles follow:
    � Mr. and Mrs. Cheng are from Taiwan. They live in Sacramento, California, in a HUD building which is almost entirely populated by elderly Taiwanese immigrants. Mr. Cheng is retired from his position as a teacher in Taiwan. The Chengs have three children in the U.S. When asked why he immigrated to the U.S., he said it was to be reunited with his children. Yet all three children live in Houston, and the Chengs see them only once a year. Mr. Cheng says he lives in Sacramento because he likes the weather there. All three of his children are computer engineers.
    � Mrs. Wong, who is from Hong Kong, lives in subsidized housing in San Francisco Chinatown. Her son is an office manager for a nonprofit corporation in Chinatown which specializes in housing for low-income Chinese immigrants. He lives in another part of San Francisco. Mrs. Wong used to live with him, taking the bus into Chinatown for socializing and shopping, but felt it would be more convenient to live in Chinatown itself. She thus moved to Chinatown, financing her residence there by SSI.
    � Mrs. Siu lives in subsidized housing near San Francisco Chinatown. She immigrated here from Hong Kong. One of her daughters owns a very succesful insurance agency, and has won an insurance company award for record-breaking sales levels. Another daughter is a software engineer. Her son is an engineer too.
    � Mrs. Lee, from China, lives in San Francisco Chinatown. She is on the waiting list for subsidized housing, and in the mean time lives in a very tiny one-room apartment, cooking on a hot plate. Her two sons live in Sacramento, and both are cooks in Chinese restaurants there. When asked whether she could live with her sons and thus not require SSI, she said yes, but they have their own children, and she does not want to get in their way.
    � Mrs. Chan, also from China, lives in San Francisco Chinatown. Her son lives in Daly City, a suburb just outside San Francisco. The son is a civil engineer and his wife is a software engineer. Mrs. Chan petitioned for her brother to immigrate a few years ago. Though typically the petitioner and the sponsor are the same person, in this case Mrs. Chan's status as an SSI recipient made her unsuitable as a sponsor, so she had her son serve as the brother's sponsor. The brother and his wife are now living in the same building as Mrs. Chan, waiting for the deeming period to end so that they can collect SSI as well.

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    • � Mr. Liu is a retired Taiwan government foreign service officer. His son lives in an upper-income city in the San Francisco Bay Area. The son is a stockbroker, and his wife is a company controller. The Lius used to live with the son, but recently moved to subsidized housing in San Jose, in order ``not to be a burden'' to the son. Another of the Lius' sons is a financial management consultant.
      � Mrs. Hom, from Hong Kong, lives in a middle-class suburban city in the San Francisco Bay Area, with her daughter. The daughter is an accountant, and the daughter's husband is an agent for a housing-supply business. Mrs. Hom also has several other children in the U.S., in a variety of white-collar and blue-collar occupations. When introduced recently to a new immigrant, also a Chinese senior, Mrs. Hom's first question to the newcomer was, ``Have you applied for your welfare benefits yet?''
      � Mrs. Yip is from China. She lives in Sunnyvale, a suburb in the Silicon Valley, with her son, who is a student at a local university. Her daughter works for the Kaiser Hospital chain (type of work not specified). The daughter also owns a restaurant.
      � Mrs. Leung immigrated here in 1982 from Hong Kong. She lives in subsidized housing in Sacramento. Her son lives in Los Angeles, where he is a mechanic at a GM car dealership. Her daughter lives in Sacramento, and works in a factory; the daughter's husband works in a restaurant. Mrs. Leung's brother immigrated recently from China. As with Mrs. Chan above, Mrs. Leung was her brother's petitioner but not his sponsor. Mrs. Leung's son, the mechanic in Los Angeles, served as the sponsor. The brother is waiting for the deeming period to end, so that he can go on SSI. He lives with Mrs. Leung's daughter, with Mrs. Leung's son contributing money to her daughter as rent for the brother.

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      • Mr. Zheng immigrated from China. He lives in subsized housing in Oakland's Chinatown. His son is a succesful physician, specializing in obstetrics and gynecology.
        � Mr. and Mrs. Gan, both in their late 50s, are from Hong Kong. Mr. Gan did construction work in Hong Kong, and his wife worked in child care. They immigrated to the U.S. two years ago, sponsored by Mrs. Gan's sister, who owns a well-known restaurant in the Bay Area. Using savings they accumulated while living in Hong Kong, the Gans purchased a three-unit building in a Bay Area city, living in one of the units while renting out the other two. As soon as they reach the age of 65, they plan to put the title to the building in their children's names, and sign up for SSI and subsidized housing.
        � Mrs. Tsai, from Taiwan, lives in Sacramento. She has four children in the U.S. But the even the geographically closest child, a son, lives 400 miles away, in a Los Angeles suburb. She sees the son once or twice a year, and sees the other, out-of-state children even less often. The son is a chemical engineer. Mrs. Tsai said that she does not want to live with him, as he lives in the hills, where there is no bus service, which would effectively restrict her to the house all day. When asked why she does not live in another Los Angeles suburb which does have bus service, enabling her to stay close to her son, she said that she likes the low rent of the subsidized housing in which she lives in Sacramento.
        � Mr. and Mrs. Chin, also from Taiwan, live in the same HUD building as Mrs. Tsai. They have two children, a son, a computer programmer in Boston, and a daughter who is a chemical engineer in Indianapolis. Mr. Chin says his children could support him, but he does not want to ``burden'' them. Later, when interviewed on the telephone by a TV reporter, the son said, ``It's perfectly legal, everyone's doing it.''
        � Originally from Hong Kong, Mrs. Au and her daughter both live in the same upper-income Bay Area city as the Lius. However, Mrs. Au lives separately from her daughter. Mrs. Au would like to move back in with her daughter and son-in-law, but they are resisting the idea, at least until their children are grown. Mrs. Au is not yet on SSI, but is planning to go on SSI as soon as she depletes her savings. Her daughter is director of a Chinese community center (she and her daughter did not specify what the daughter's husband does).
        � The Ma family is originally from Hong Kong, but later emigrated to New York, where Mr. Ma has owned and operated a series of successful restaurants. His aged mother lives with the Ma family. When Mr. Ma was asked how his mother manages to spend her monthly $300 SSI checks, given that her residence with Mr. Ma makes her expenses minimal, Mr. Ma's wife quickly interjected, ``Have you seen how expensive clothes are these days?''

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