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  • wildstoic wildstoic Nov 3, 2005 1:01 PM Flag

    Chinese Steam/Ethanol Contracts

    The biggest news out of this conference call is the potential for Chinese Steam Contracts.

    JK stated (1:22:30) to Van Winkle that SunOpta's BioProcess group is going after Chinese BIOMASS to Ethanol Contracts.

    These contracts, as announced by the Chinese government, are for **BIOMASS** to ethanol production "bigger than the whole [corn] ethanol production of the United States".

    This production is on the order of 4-5 Billion gallons per year.

    This means China is bidding out construction of BIOMASS to Ethanol plants for something like *5000 times* Abengoa Salamanca's production of 1 million gallons of CELLULOSIC ethanol per year.

    SunOpta got $6 million for the Abengoa Salamanca plant.

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    • Yes, this was a big hit. First the DOE and Abengoa and now China. Obviously the technology is making waves. I'll agree with Heart an soy that they are keeping it close to the vest. People on here are not very keen in understanding what federal funding and biomass is all about.

    • China is a big opportunity, but that's all it is for SunOpta right now. Securing business in China will be a tough challenge for a small company even if they offer a great technology.

      It was apparent on the call that the company is disappointed that Abengoa is outsourcing several pieces of the US ethanol plant instead of giving it all to SunOpta like they did in Spain. Kendall almost seemed to not want to talk about it. Quite a swing from last quarter when he was talking up the pending second order from Abengoa for the US plant.

      Baring any surprise announcements this stock will be stuck between $4-$5 until Q1 earnings report in early May.

      • 2 Replies to akathemole
      • This is incorrect. The York plant is entirely Sunopta. There is no outsourcing of any equipment or technology. York is completely run by Sunopta and is funded by both Abengoa and the DOE.

      • Sure China is "only" an "opportunity" at this point but the probabilities are very good:

        SunOpta is not just offering "a great technology" - They are offering the only PROVEN COMMERICIALLY VIABLE pre-treatment process for biomass to ethanol conversion. The hard sell was convincing the Chinese to go with BIOMASS ethanol (they probably figured this out for themselves). Now that they are committed to BIOMASS ethanol, they will execute their commitment using PROVEN technology, and this means steam explosion pre-treatment. All of the other pre-treatment methods are way too flaky.

        The Chinese are desperate to supply their fuel needs. Didn't they just make an unsolicited bid for Exxon?

        As for Abengoa outsourcing parts of the York plant. That's fine - steam explosion is the high margin part. The other equipment is low-margin off-the-shelf commodity stuff (as JK explained).

        Just one contract (even if financially insignificant) in China would send STKL through the roof - the "surprise announcement" you have mentioned.

 
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