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  • FAFAFLUNKY99 FAFAFLUNKY99 Dec 1, 2004 6:16 PM Flag

    Cell

    It's IBM making it, , like I thought, what did Sony do? IBM probably did most of the work, they are gonna produce it alsohttp://money.cnn.com/2004/11/29/technology/cell.reut/index.htm

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    • " Yeah, so Intel does 0.9 . . . that doesn't help Sony"

      You are idiot.... By virtual of intel r&d etc. as well as intel BUYING things, intel helps technological advance.

      " Uh yeah . . . OK. I think I'll go down to the store and buy one . . . Not!"

      You are idiot, psp is not released to stores yet.... BUT, psp is already built.


      " OK, so Intel might be able to manufacture it. Unfortunately, Intel is not their fab."

      Of course intel can, but it chose not to kill converting sand to x86 business which give them billions. In fact, for practical purpose, intel gave powerpc to ibm. Intel created i860 which are father to both 486 and powerpc.


      "Sure, it uses one existing core . . . but it is largely new."

      Well, you dont get it do you.... It is more like placing cpu and graphics in one chip with built in dram. ps2 is already like mips64+2graphics core.

      "Wow . . . that was very sleazy. You completely took a phrase out of context. My full sentence was:"

      You are idiot. So you dont think Intel is part of chip industry or something?


      " did nVidia just get a deal to do PS3 graphics?"

      Like i said, PATENTS mostly. It is like directx software though it can benefit by creating some/most potion with specific hardware acceleration. 3d graphics are computationally intensive and there are 3 main parts...floating point, memory bandwidth, and algorithm.

      Plus sony want everyone to use cell as much as possible so it is stratigic.

    • wtf_is_going_on_these_days wtf_is_going_on_these_days Dec 8, 2004 10:43 AM Flag

      >>Dude, you are idiot since not only you listen to it but recomand others to do that.

      I'm being called an idiot by someone that uses words like 'recomand'? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that English is your second language.

      >>"Heck, most of the industry is still in 0.13 micro and 0.9"
      >Hell no, intel has 80% of industry with 90nm.... We are not talking about some minor foundry etc.

      Wow . . . that was very sleazy. You completely took a phrase out of context. My full sentence was:
      "Heck, most of the industry is still in 0.13 micro and 0.9 is only the playfield of the biggies like Intel."

      Yeah, so Intel does 0.9 . . . that doesn't help Sony.

      >Beside, psp is already 90nm.

      Uh yeah . . . OK. I think I'll go down to the store and buy one . . . Not!

      >Plus, cell is NOT that brand new. It has POWERPC core. This make it similar to mips core with some extention like emotion engine.<

      Sure, it uses one existing core . . . but it is largely new.

      >So it is not much different thatn x86 with graphics coprocessor with some additional optimizations.<

      OK, so Intel might be able to manufacture it. Unfortunately, Intel is not their fab.


      But you need to address my other message . . . if things are going so well with Sony, Toshiba, and IBM on the cell chip then why did nVidia just get a deal to do PS3 graphics? Perhaps I was wrong, but I was under the impression that the cell chip was going to do the PS3 graphics. You seemed to indicate that you also believed that. (Actually, it seems you still do believe that.)

    • "Dude, listen to the Flunky"

      Dude, you are idiot since not only you listen to it but recomand others to do that.

      "Heck, most of the industry is still in 0.13 micro and 0.9"

      Hell no, intel has 80% of industry with 90nm.... We are not talking about some minor foundry etc.


      Beside, psp is already 90nm.

      Plus, cell is NOT that brand new. It has POWERPC core. This make it similar to mips core with some extention like emotion engine.

      So it is not much different thatn x86 with graphics coprocessor with some additional optimizations.

      Hard part is getting small core to work together.... But you have ibm with numa and blue-gene etc.



      And here's OLD NEWS

      "New Product information from Toshiba Electronics Europe
      Date: 5 December 2002 � Company contact details


      Big two shrink CMOS process to 65nm
      Toshiba and Sony have codeveloped the world's first 65nm CMOS process technology for embedded DRAM system LSIs."

    • >You are retard... in 2 years production of 65nm will be common.

      Dude, listen to the Flunky. From what the two of you write, it seems that he knows much more about process technology that you. Heck, most of the industry is still in 0.13 micro and 0.9 is only the playfield of the biggies like Intel. And you are talking about 65nm for a brand new chip design? One that hasn't been debugged on current processes yet? I don't think so.

    • U.S. Mint? Is that a trick question?

    • You are idiot....

      Who MADE MONEY.

    • The transistor radio pioneered by..........................REGENCY, first to market, not Sony

    • lol.... now we know...

      You must got laid off when transistor radio came around... and blames sony for making money while you could not afford to buy one.

      See what racisms does to you, instead of buying sony stock and being rich, you lived hateful live.

    • Yup, and in 20 years, we will routinely go the the moon and back. In 2 years 65 will be OBSOLETE. but I'm sure Sony will still be selling you a robot dog. Woof Woof. What version of Astro blaster are you using, how many points did you accumulate?

    • idiot, sony want to make 65nm and want ibm to make 90nm so that software will be available.

 
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