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  • alecousi alecousi Apr 6, 1999 2:25 AM Flag

    enjoyed the link

    Thanks for the link. This is the first thing I've
    read that made sense for the run down in price the
    last 3 months. With the exception of the decrease in
    ROE in 1998 and a decrease in rate of earnings
    increase, I could not find a problem with this stock. It
    never occurred to me that it had just lost the
    popularity contest.

    Somewhere around here we should
    find a bottom. What's your opinion? Are we there now
    or is there still a little more run down? It can't
    be much. The stock is near it's low point and not
    that far from book. This with good earnings and an
    increase in dividends.

    Good Luck

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    • NoBeerAndNoTVMakeHomerGoCrazy NoBeerAndNoTVMakeHomerGoCrazy Jun 16, 1999 8:49 PM Flag

      Following are all the stocks and mutual funds he
      recommends currently. Of course the buy and sell points are
      all over the board. Some are more speculative, some
      not, etc. (i.e., a list doesn't mean much). His '10
      baggers' from this past month's issue were CPQ and
      RHI.

      APPB AWPBX BFR CEG BGRIX BIGRX BRE BSCVX BTTRX BULIX
      CGMRX CNL CPB CPJ CPQ GOLD DUK FEQTX FREFX GAS GLG HIW
      HPT HR IEI IIT KRC LGE LRY LZ MAPTX MBGUX NBP NTHEX
      OMX ONE PAAS PCL PLD PPS RHI RTNA S SBC SCEMX SLE
      SNXSX TE TEE TEO TOY TPP TRI TRN TWIEX UNH VAGIX VEIPX
      VGENX VGSUX
      WEN

      -------------------------------------------------
      As for TRN, this is what he says:
      Five-Year
      Projected Total Return: 157.25%
      What we like about
      Trinity Industries:

      Core railcar business in
      midst of a multiyear boom (railroads
      must replace
      old cars, add new capacity)

      Highly efficient
      producer with some of the industry�s best profit margins


      Solid finances; long-term debt less than half 1990
      levels

      Low P/E limits stock�s downside and
      offers possibility of upside "surprise"


      Potential concerns to be aware of:

      Cyclical
      downturn in U.S. economy would hurt (unlikely for now)


      Metal benders like Trinity sometimes attract lawsuits
      for
      structural defects


      ----------------------------------

      Please understand that I'm not touting Band (though I
      think he's really good), but rather responding to a
      question. Of course, given Yahoo's board freedom, I could
      actually be responding to myself. Doh!

      - Homer

    • ? and what else does he like now?

    • And what are his reasons for liking TRN? His objectives?

    • pru speculator. As a prior long who respects
      their opinions it was welcome news. Suspect (hope) that
      the weakness here is for no adequate reason...like
      petc at 6, which was essentially for no reason ...
      that could ever subsequently determine. Maybe a matter
      of more weakness based largely on fear of the
      foregoing weakness. Good luck with SEP.

    • Who was the advisory firm who touted TRN, The
      Prudent Speculator? I read their comments last week and
      added to my TRN holdings. In fact, I dumped most of my
      SEP-IRA holdings to do it. With the revenues and earnings
      TRN is producing, I expect the day traders to pile on
      when the upmove comes.

    • of the week by a top advisory firm last night,
      and in their report were sited the incredably strong
      fundamentals, well-known by fellow longs. The fundamental and
      technical support at this level appear to be
      tremendous....certainly the recent earnings release and conference were
      extremely positive. Gotta believe that the market is as
      inefficient and crazy as ever...that this stock may well
      double in price over the not too distant future...but
      why so cheap now? Perhaps if we can drag out the
      worries and negatives into clear view, then the stock
      could start a good move up.

    • All that typing; all that hype - and nothing to do with TRN. Rude besides.

    • The hot stock pick of the week -
      TTRIF

      Analysts predict strong buy on TTRIF
      and target price
      for TTRIF is $0.35 to $0.50

      1) Expect revenue
      to increase($1.2 million) and
      business expanding
      (secured $200 million in
      long-term debt
      financing)
      http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/990422/ism_thermo_1.html

      2) New Management team will start a stock
      repurchasing
      Program soon and will aggressively pursue new
      plants.
      http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/990422/thermo_tec_1.html

      This stock is going to be very hot and is about to
      scream.
      Big News is coming out soon!!!

      Check it out
      NOW!!!!
      http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=ttrif&d=1d
      http://www.ttrif.com/

    • I have followed TRN for about ten years. It is
      more of a proprietorship than a corporation. It has
      been run by one man Ray Wallace and only as he has
      seen fit, however he has done very well indeed. His
      program is to buy competitors at the bottom of a business
      cycle and dominate the market. Railcars, Barges, Boats,
      Production Vessels and Highway Products.

      However,
      Wallace plays it real close to his chest. There is almost
      no news or promotion given out about the company and
      none without Wallace's approval. Analysts can't even
      decide into what catagory the company fits. Railroads,
      Heavy equipment, Construction, Ect. but they all agree
      that it is a cyclical stock.
      Over the past ten
      years TRN's P/E ratio has been as low as 7+ and as high
      as 36+ The average high P/E is 23, the avg low P/E
      15, and the 5 yr avg is 19+. Dividends have typically
      been about a third of earnings. as high as 75% in 1987
      but lately well under 30% and even after the 4 cent
      raise only 18% of earnings. I think the dividend should
      be raised another 20 - 25 cents to help the stock
      price.

      Cyclicals seem to be comming back into favor and I'm
      looking for a P/E ratio up into the 20's this year. I
      have no idea what causes TRN's price fluctuations, the
      market goes up TRN goes down, the market goes down the
      stock goes up.

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