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  • IDTC_RULES_THE_NET IDTC_RULES_THE_NET Jul 8, 1999 3:13 PM Flag

    OVER 100 MILL. IN MARKET CAP WIPED OUT

    in 2 days because of TSC article!!!!!!!

    GREENBERG YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Read the rest of your piece. You really are right
      on now. How eloquent. No one on this board seems to
      remember how valuable NTOP is and will be.

      Voice
      over IP is one of the next big changes to take place
      on the Interent. NTOP and IDTC will reap huge
      rewards as users wake up to this
      service.

      Moreover, IDTC's new $07.9 per minute plan will continue to
      fuel IDTC's incredible growth. Just like AOL, this
      brand will be of great value as users refer other
      users. Sales growth should continue to be extremely
      strong. As long as IDTC can keeps its cost structure low,
      this company will prosper.

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    • It gets you to the story lead-in, but not the details unless you are a subscriber. Thanks for responding, however.

    • now, the reasons for the article, from the Street
      com perspective are obvious...a faddish decline in
      eyeballs, coupled with a stagnating inflated valuation,
      coupled with lackluster financial performance, coupled
      with what is probably a high cost structure, again, I
      do not know these as facts, but the valuation is
      clearly exhorbitant and earnings non-existent. I would be
      interested in getting exact figures on their readership and
      readership increases, but journalism is a highly competitive
      field. Considering IDTC has one of the most active and
      vocal Boards on Yahoo, if not the most, and considering
      the fervor with which both longs and shorts favor
      their respective positions, it's really not a bad call,
      from a marketing standpoint. Frankly, it's worked, if
      they can manage to get away with it without being sued
      or reprimanded by whatever authorities monitor these
      sorts of activities. Mr. Greenberg is very public in
      stating that 'he neither takes long or short positions'.
      I don't know this for a fact, but I certainly can't
      refute it either, and this is not for me to investigate
      or worry about, it's his problem now. I favor IDTC
      not furthering the publicity and sticking to their
      knitting. To create a skirmish of major magnitude is
      exactly what the Street.com wants, that is the nature of
      their business. Let's not accomodate them. The best
      option is what the company is doing, which is no
      reaction, and reserving the right to review the matter
      legally, if appropriate. The end result is that, after the
      stock stabilizes, which I already believe it has, it
      will regain it's strength due to the severe
      undervaluation that it holds, and, again I reiterate, it will
      reflect the value of Net2phone, it MUST, or the market's
      forces will insure it does, over time, and not a long
      time. We will get paid, either now, or later, but,
      assuming that the fundamentals continue to improve, the
      company continues to execute blockbuster deals, continues
      to be the leader in the hot product in the hot
      industry, we'll be fine. Don't worry so much about these
      potshots. You haven't seen the last of them, I pretty much
      will guarantee you that. If you think it's hot at 20,
      think about when it's 60. That's just the nature of the
      game.

      Have a nice evening.

      HHBB

    • You sound like the type of person who would use a date rape drug on your date and then be upset if she turned you in, get a life, other than the low life you seem to flaunt!

    • <<Why does IDTC have so many enemies? Why
      is it so hard for them to be liked by Wall Street
      (aside from "On a Roll" answers)?

      And most
      importantly, the way that insiders make a KILLING is to have
      their stock go up. So why aren't they helping
      themselves by helping the stock? I mean 1 X revenues in this
      market is ludicrous. Especially with so many good things
      (supposedly) happening to which they will not talk about ANY
      OF THEM. I don't get it!

      Why does this stock
      defy all logic? And why does management help it defy
      logic?>>

      Like Roseanneroseannadanna used to say, 'you sure
      ask good questions mister fayder'...

      Any young
      upstart company that has been on the cutting edge
      inventing 'work arounds' and new products that deliver
      existing cash cow services cheaper, faster and more
      efficiently, is going to have a littany of enemies that are
      vigorously dedicated to pursuing it's failure, unfortunately
      using any means. IDTC is such a company, from inventing
      the entire callback segment to get around
      international termination agreements/dominant carrier charges,
      to work-around the local loop termination, to using
      the internet backbone because it is cheaper and more
      efficient, to delivering debit cards on a cash basis to
      segments of the population that sorely needed them and
      were previously neglected because they either didn't
      have the money or credit to have their own telephones.
      That is the nature of the company that you and I have
      invested in. It is run by a very young management team,
      most, except for Jim C., Howard B., and some Board
      Members, by people in their twenties and thirties. This is
      both good and bad. It is good because they have the
      energy and nothing will stop me attitude of youth. It is
      bad because they lack the business experience and
      saavy to deal with the likes of highly capitalized and
      astutely managed (because they have bought the talent,
      have inertia and an awful lot of clout) 800 pound
      gorillas. I've been saying for a while that if I was T, I'd
      be scared senseless. They know their days are
      numbered, and that's why they are aggressively changing
      their business models spending their last nickels in
      this effort. When you build a company in a matter of
      three or four years, from single digit revenues to
      almost a billion run rate, the revenues come from
      somebody's pocket. If it seems like 'entities' are 'playing
      against you' it's because they are. One would only hope
      that they would follow Queensbury rules and fight
      legally, and maybe we can even hope for ethically, but
      this is often not the case.

      In the most recent
      events, one can wonder why a publication which is really
      not widely followed, and is frankly struggling, would
      pick this time for this 'exposure journalism'. A case
      can be made that the timing of the article coincided
      almost to the minute with the breakout of the stock from
      24 3/4s, where it had been working for about an
      hour. Impeccable timing, if your intent was to weaken
      the stock. The spirit in which the article was
      written is, the 'boy I gotcha, now listen to this
      one...wow...' with really nothing material or substantive, yet
      full of insinuated tie-ins of cause-effect (can't
      reach Mr. Lermer...does he exist, is he crooked, is he
      hiding something?), is also quite astute, and preyed
      exactly on the one thing that it could possibly prey on,
      which is to cast doubts as to the 'culture' or 'ethical
      behavior' which are subjective and emotional items. They
      had to resort to this because they had no proof of
      anything, they had nothing, so the only appeal is to the
      only thing that cannot be defended, which is the
      casting of 'doubt' via innuendo.

      post
      continued...

      HHBB

    • TSC tried their best to give you some clue on
      IDT. Since there are so many skeletons in the
      basement, IDT management could not respond anything to the
      TSC articles. IDT management has the mentality of
      date rape victim, worring about all the negative
      stories that will follow if she/he report to
      police.

      RAPE VICTIM MENTALITY and loser mindset.

      What a
      fucking losers.

    • Why does IDTC have so many enemies? Why is it so
      hard for them to be liked by Wall Street (aside from
      "On a Roll" answers)?

      And most importantly,
      the way that insiders make a KILLING is to have their
      stock go up. So why aren't they helping themselves by
      helping the stock? I mean 1 X revenues in this market is
      ludicrous. Especially with so many good things (supposedly)
      happening to which they will not talk about ANY OF THEM. I
      don't get it!

      Why does this stock defy all
      logic? And why does management help it defy logic?

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