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  • joekdoe04 joekdoe04 Sep 7, 2011 3:24 PM Flag


    So far during the first three years of the Obama Administration many changes have occurred to improve our health care options. Not all have become active yet but all changes have been become the law. If you support or oppose the changes you might want to review this list. For those who believe they oppose Obama Care, they might realize how much it benefits them. For those who already support Obama Care, this can be used as a reference. But save this into a word file or bookmark the link as someone who hates Obama will probably try to delete this thread.

    This list is derived from: I’m putting this up front for Donut, who cannot read to the end.

    • Removed Bush era restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research (2009)
    • Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research (2009)
    • Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children (2009)
    • Established an independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare (2009)
    • Reversed some of the Bush-era restrictions that prevented Medicare from negotiating with pharmaceutical firms for cheaper drugs, allowing government to again competitively bid (2009) * Note: Obama had promised to lift all restrictions but, while he did negotiate with drug companies for them to lower their costs the deal only lifted some restrictions
    • Expanding government vaccination programs (2009)
    • Issued new disease prevention guidelines and priorities for the CDC (2009)
    • Authorized the FDA to finally begin regulating tobacco (2009)
    • Tasked federal labs to prioritize research on and deployment of H1N1 vaccines (2009)
    • Asked multiple congressional committees to bring forward a healthcare reform bill; held dozens of public hearings and town halls on the issue (2009) (2010)
    • Established a new council on National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health to be chaired by Surgeon General and charged with promoting healthy lifestyles and integrative healthcare (2010)
    • When accusations to the contrary arose, an Executive Order was signed to reaffirm that federal funds are not to be used for abortion services (2010)
    • Historic healthcare reform bill signed - $940 billion over 10 years (2010)* Note: 32 million additional Americans will receive healthcare coverage and costs will be lowered for most Americans, but many of the goals are phased in over four years

    Components Documented on the Next Page

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    • Everyone needs to have access to this information.

    • Your Health Care system will go the same way as Social Security, The USPS, Medicare, and any other business the Federal Government attempts to run.......That is what you need to know about O'bamaCare!

      • 1 Reply to teapartysaveus
      • Social Security is fine and is funded through the next 27 years. I can rely on the prompt deposit of my check each month into my checking account.

        The USPS has been around since the first congress authorized it as required by our constitution and is one of the most trustworthy agencies available. It pays for its services by the stamps it sells and any shortfall is only a temporary thing until the price of the stamps are raised to cover the costs. Even with increase in stamp costs it is still cheaper than UPS or Fed Ex, which the Fringe Right always forget to mention.

        Medicare and its VA Clinic parallel are doing fine.

        The only problems you might criticize them for is not adequately taxing the wealthy to cover any temporary shortfalls.

        When I updated my Passport for a trip around South America in 2009, I had very prompt service for getting Visas to Chile through Brazil. I enjoyed my bike ride through the capital Buenos Aires. It was fun.

        The invisible federal agencies are many and serve many facets of American life.

        As a general rule I have found every federal agency I have had contact with to be courteous, prompt, and efficient. I don't have any complaints. I wonder why you do? It couldn't be that you are repeating false nonsense could it?

    • This needs to be read again by the Fringe Right.

    • See:

      "The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a ruling by a lower court judge that the federal government could not compel people to buy health insurance, known as the individual mandate."

    • is that it WILL COST FAR MORE than anyone imagined!

      • 1 Reply to joe6pack65
      • You wrot, " it WILL COST FAR MORE"

        No. Just the opposite. The reform bill will save hundreds of billions of dollars over a ten year period starting in 2014. That is a considerable savings. If you like the policy you currently have you can keep it with no change in the premium FROM the law. And health care insurance providers have to justify any increase they impose on their customers. But by now including those people who had in the past opted out, the costs per customer will be less.

        I realize that there are external factors to health insurance, such as inflation, that can make it look like there is an increase. But the rebuttal is that the increases would have been that much more without the reform.

        joe6pack65, I realize you hate Obamacare NOW. But once it is active in 2014 you will find that it has made no change in your life except made health insurance more affordable and prevented you and your family from having to eliminate health insurance because it had become a luxury that only the wealthy could afford. That 'no change' is the change we want because we were on track for the elimination of health care as an affordable option for middle class families.

        There are people, such as myself, who are already benefiting from such things as closing the Donut Hole for prescription drugs, which began this year. Pharmaceutical mail order companies are being forced to lower what they charge customers starting this year. For me that amounts to hundreds of dollars being saved. By 2014 the Donut Hole will be eliminated. That will save me around $750 each year. You can see why I am in favor of ObamaCare. But more important than myself, it will contribute to a healthier American citizen as most people become covered by the plan.

        ObamaCare is a win-win for everyone. (Except the Illegal Aliens, for whom there is no change, since they are excluded from the plan.)

    • No one is going to go to your house to make you do anything. The amount will be deducted from your pay check if you are employed. If you are self employed it will probably be required that you submit payment quarterly. And just like not paying your income taxes, you will be subject to penalties if you don't make payment.

      All your silly arsenal of weapons isn't going to make you any more secure. But if you want to play that silly game, you might get free medical care in prison. What you do is no concern to me. To me you are just another blow hard turkey with not much education.

    • You are making some assumptions

    • Your BS list does not talk about all the free health care to all the illegal aliens that infest this country. You do you think will be paying for that mess?

      • 2 Replies to cit_rip
      • As far as I can tell there is no change to how illegals are treated. But they are explicitly excluded from participating in coverage in the ObamaCare program. Happy?

      • "The folks who are getting the free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff,
        Because the folks who are paying for the free stuff,
        Can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff,

        The folks who are paying for the free stuff,
        Want the free stuff to stop.
        and the the folks who are getting the free stuff,
        Want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!

        The people who are forcing the people who Pay for the free stuff,
        Have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff,
        That the people who are PAYING for the free stuff,
        Are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.

        the people who are GETTING the free stuff,
        Have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff,
        By the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff,
        And giving them the free stuff in the first place.

        We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are
        Now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.

        Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide
        somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason
        The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing
        people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.

        The United States officially became a Republic in 1776, 231 years ago. The number of people now
        getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that
        in 2012."

        A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

    • ObamaCare includes an UNCONSTITUTIONAL mandatory participation requirement.

      • 1 Reply to joe6pack65
      • Well, for now that is YOUR opinion. We will see what happens with the Supreme Court.

        The interesting thing is that if the SC does agree with you then the funding for the health care reverts to taxes, which are constitutional by an amendment to the constitution, and we end up with essentially a single payer plan, which Republicans want to avoid as then the insurance companies become unnecessary and are eliminated. Voila. Socialized medicine! Happy surprise.

    • If this bill is so great, why have there been over 1100 exemptions applied for and granted. Over 40% of the exemptions are labor unions. Tell us why ole great one.

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