I think the market reaction to corruption and fraud by the CEO and CFO is warranted. Who knows what the books look like. Actually, I think Guardian is a much better product. Their whole claim to fame was the B2 security rating of their firewall. The rating was only for the operating systems they built their origninal UNIX firewall on. The newer NT and UNIX firewalls did not even claim to be B2 rated. So now not only does their management and firewall stink; their stock price is in the sewer.