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  • florida_crackerjack florida_crackerjack Mar 10, 2005 4:26 PM Flag

    Take a ride

    down Highway 98 if you're in the area. Pretend the developements aren't there. Imagine a better time.............

    Imagine driving down Highway 98 for 5 miles and not seeing another car. Sun coming up from the East and casting a shimmer of intense color on the Gulf of Mexico as you drive. Cities such as Panacea, Lanark Village, Medart, St James, Carrabelle pass in a blur. Stop at the filling station right on the Gulf for a cup of coffee outside of Lanark and you know everyone in the place. Continue on 98 towrds a new day and 90% of the motorists heading south wave to you. This is the Florida that my father and his fathers father were raised in. Hospitable, neighborly, and pristine. This is the Florida that many authors have used as a backdrop for their stories. This is the Florida that Sam Harrison wrote of in his wonderful story, "The Walls of Blue Coquina". For all you folks advocating this ruination of Florida I suggest you read the book and take a trip down Highway 98. It may be close to your last chance to experience the true Florida legacy. It certainly won't be reminisced about for its cluttered beachfronts, outrageous land prices,grotesque homes built by pseudo-wealthy northerners, clogged roads, strip malls, KFCs, and CVS drug stores.

    Isn't it funny that people try to escape to paradise and then attempt to recreate the Hell they left, except this time with a waterfront view?

    WAKE UP!!!!


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    • Hint: When making multiple posts under different names, try to remember to sign off at the bottom with the same name that you logged on with, Florida crackerjack, or Nam, etc.

      It is indeed a beautiful area (the panhandle), and we live in a capitalist country where people can live where they like. I'm sure in Cuba there's plenty of waterfront property that is completely undeveloped.

    • Great post! I remember those days. We are losing our identity. Almost all our local restaurants are closing. Soon people will be hurrying down from Atlanta to eat in the same national chains that are in Atlanta. Oh well, some people call that progress.

      • 1 Reply to florida_pioneer
      • Great post?
        It's the same crap he posted a few months ago.

        Although I've only lived in the panhandle for twenty three years, I've driven HY98 many times...
        I'll miss all of the aqua colored mini-golf courses, drive through liquor stores and 3/$10 T-shirt shops that have populated our towns for years.

        Yes, those were the days.

        Wake Up? Why? I'm don't want this wonderful dream to end.

    • Notice the capital letters. SHORTS are getting more nervous! Watch for increased bashing and more desperation.

    • To the best of my knowledge, the board had to to step up to the plate to get Peter R. to leave Disney and Kevin T. to leave a bank to join JOE in Jacksonville. So options etc. were granted. Seeing what mgmt has done to stock price, redeployed to shareholders via stock buyback and dividends etc. and the price of JOE stock when they joined versus today - I think mgmt was PROPERLY incentivized. They are getting paid because they made $$$ for shareholders - that is just. If they are able to get the same return on shares over the enxt 8+ years; I, as a shareholder. would happy to pay them similarly

    • i agree with you..I DON'T WANT THE HANDLE TO BECOME WHAT THE NEWBIES LEFT! thats what happened to south florida, and having lived in pompano beach for 10's awful. your statement can be valid for any town, city or state. florida has changed, and it will change for the next millenia. how far do you want to take this the paleo indians? it is of the human nature to expand and develop, and yes, humans have screwed the pooch many times. somehow, i think JOE and the local involved governments will not let the panhandle become broward county. i believe that all parties committed to this growth want it controlled, to do the right thing FOR ONCE, and to make it a showplace of how development should be done. am i alone in my thoughts about our future? i think not. JOE will make mistakes, no doubt about it. but they will not make the same mistakes over and over again like most developers. they won't try and squeeze and rip off every dollar they can, they have plenty of money there is no need for that.

    • OK're right. I have no right to say vicious and hateful things to you or about you. I apologize...and I apologize to the board for taking up space with this foolishness.

      But gotta help out a little. When you bring up the same points over and over....I mean, really. Management is greedy, the panhandle is losing it's character, blah blah. Tell me something I don't know. But I'm glad we had this talk and I appreciate your contributions to the community.

    • Blackie, I see posts of yours going back at least to 1/30. How long have you been here? I don't think any are missing, but not sure.

      If you need me to copy and send them to you, let me know. Sometimes Yahoo! screws up indiscriminately. I had 3 or 4 days a while back where no matter what I did it said server error, but nobody else seemed to have the problem.

      Let me know. I could be your archivist. Hmmmm, what kind of money does an archivist charge? Awww, what the heck, I would do it pro bono as a service to the historical balance for this board. God knows this board needs balance.

    • Morgan Stanley reiterates equal-weight rating....price target of 63. Apparently, they advised to overweight in 7/02 and reduced to equal-weight in 12/04.

      Is Morgan where JOE"s new cfo is from?

    • Yes, you may well feel fine because we are giving you attention you apparently so desperately crave. But don't imply you're just a sweet, misunderstood guy. A few recent examples of your generous nature:
      "Ya'll are dumber than a box of Florida rocks.
      "When I want an opinion, I'll seek it from someone whose opinion I value. Understand?"
      "Don't be a total dumbass."
      "If we could just find a way to send all Ohioans who have retired down here in Florida back to the Cuyahoga River and relight it, I would be very happy."
      "I don't think you'd be much fun having seen what you're capable of, or is that incapable of, here."
      "Remember I relieve the boredom in your boring existence."

    • No apology needed. I'm not mad, nor have I been mad. Not now, not ever.

      <<<"When you bring up the same points over and over....">>>

      You're not serious, are you? I have gone back and read the posts before I arrived. It was like a Jim Jones Revival.There was Auro to post from "Ground Zero". There was one view, shared by all, and nobody to speak for the trees(to steal a line from Theodore Geisel). Well, things have changed.

      Some here are very quick to point out that change is progress(of sorts). Now, you have me, Todd, Blackie, et al who don't toe the Auro Ground Zero party line. That should be good for this board. Not bad as most here like to paint it. It elicits thought, and thought elicits change. Change is inevitable. That is the mantra here. I just mouth it in a different language, I guess.

      Well, I was thinking I should go answer Retire456's nastygram, but won't. He needs to look inward to find nasty. I would suggest he focus on Retire456 and not worry about me.

      I feel fine!



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