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  • bobbritton2003 bobbritton2003 Oct 1, 2012 10:00 AM Flag

    interest

    ALU is still paying on this TRUP. Will they suspend , that is the question

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    • As I read the Balance Sheet info, ALU has more Cash than Debt......Wouldn't make sense for them to stop interest payments at this point! Also, there is going to be a slow down in the CapEx spending, which should conserve cash.

      • 2 Replies to chazooks
      • Not only does ALU have more cash than debt as Chaz points out, but they also have a patent portfolio worth billions and some parts of their telecom business are not so bad. The 2017 maturity of LUTHP is also a big advantage. The long term bonds such as the 2028 bonds are more senior, but being repaid first is a big advantage.

        My Excel model now shows that luthp at a price of 570 has a yield to maturity of 24.6% as compared to a yield to maturity of the 6.5% 2028 bonds of only 11.8% at a recent price of 63. Yield to maturity is a good way to compare LUTHP to the bonds - not simple yield which doesn't take into account accretion of the discount to par. It's hard to find a YTM calculation for LUTHP (and not especially easy to program it yourself in Excel).

        I launched a newsletter recently which covers offbeat issues like LUTHP that appear to be undervalued. For example you can also buy JBK to get the highest possible yield for a Goldman Sachs issue or SSRAP to get a higher yield than Sears bonds. Issue 3 was 13 pages and included 2 Excel models with additional notes and supporting calculations. Subscribers also get email on breaking news and updates for covered issues.

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      • Thanks. Since LUTHP is selling at 60 % of par I assumed that there was some fear of suspension or default. ALU bonds are selling at higher % to book.

        Sentiment: Buy

 
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