This was sent to everyone at KforceA company-wide
conference call has been scheduled today, June 22, 2000 at
5:00 PM, EST by David Dunkel. On this call, David will
be discussing company current events. Please find
the call details below. As always with a call of this
size, please take advantage of conference rooms and
group together as to utilize fewer phone lines.
Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000
Time: 5:00 PM,
Number: (800) 369-3161
One thing you got to realize is that Corporate
Human Resources has only been standing for about a yr.
Rob, like the rest of us in HR, was trying to put a
department together that was never formed. There are legal
documentations that are required by law which he was trying to
get straighten out for this company. Losing him is
now putting damper on alot of these issues. He was
not the only one we lost in here and we are all
suffering from it. We are now overworked and underpaid. Now
we don't know much about what is going on anywhere
without him here. That is something you should consider.
losing about a person a day in the kforce
consulting group, as well as big turnover in the staffing
side. Not sure why the laid off folks - they have
enough quitting to more than reduce the employee force
to the new levels they need!
I was at a
vendor office today and ran into three ex-kforcers that
have quit just within the past few weeks... they said
it is pretty bad within the walls of kforce - at
least on the consulting side of things. Sad...
Personally glad GS caused an upswing in the stock price -
another $5/share and I can get out at a breakeven! Have a
feeling they are doing the upgrade for their own reasons
through - wouldn't bet any more money than I am willing
to lose right now after hearing the stuff I heard
today. Of course, perhaps what GS has been told by
Dunkle is that they are indeed getting rid of the money
wasters like the kforce Consulting group - etc... Then
that would be a positive step towards recovering the
core company! Let's just hope!
kforce.com f_cks 150
Kforce.com pink slipped 150 workers. This is f_cked on so
many levels. They deserve the vicious treatment that
all of the headhunters on the FC Message Board have
been getting... Spaaaaam city.
check out their
Working for him in HR might be a different
But I am a revenue-producing employee in the field,
and he was less than interested in helping solve a
real problem than he was in his in his BS flashy
marketing hype "travel brochure" benefits enrollment
package that was weeks late and a waste of money and
But HR and line people rarely see eye to eye. In
fact, we rarely even speak the same
Good riddance, in my opinion.
Yes, he is no longer here but "kforceguy" is
wrong in regards to his matter. Rod was very loyel and
hard working! He cared about his employees and would
do anything to assist them!!! Maybe the question
asked was one that he could not answer and should have
gone to Corporate Help Desk on! By all means Buchen is
NOT a F***ING JERK! Unless you actually worked for
him then nothing should be said!
Yeah, he's gone.
Now I wish I would have
gone ahead and told him what a dirtbag I thought he
was when I sat with him at breakfast one day at the
He screwed me royally on a
benefits issue, and blew it off by telling me basically to
"shut up and go bill some more".
There. I feel better now. :-)
As far as all the
other negative comments on this board, I am still here
after many years, making good money and still proud of
my company. I wish the stock price was higher, but
we're doing our part in the field. Not much else we can
do, unless you want to sit around here and gripe all
As a long time employee and shareholder I am
outraged that a so called
"employee" of this company
would take an internal memo meant for our own
and immediately send it to this message board. I
consider this person
to be contributing to the
problems we have as opposed to helping us get
them. First of all, I'd like to know why this person is
assets for their personal opinions?
In addition, why is this being done on
time? (this message was composed last night at home!)
if this person feels so strongly about our current
management's performance ( and they have made MANY screwups
kforce, branding, etc) they should do what
any shareholder is entitled to
Board of Directors! This message board has become a
vehicle for many cowards who use it's
anonymity to hide behind,. Airing out
our dirty laundry
here will not change dunkel but what it will do is
bad situation worse, both for those
employees who do spend their time during
actually working as well as to our investors and analysts
by dropping our price. How will that
help morale? Let's try to change things
sending constructive suggestions to the BOD, dunkel and
presidents. If they still won't
change, vote with your feet and leave...and
quickly. With the market as strong as it is, we should all
our time running our own businesses
(yes, you really do work for yourself
here if you
are on commission and you do not need the kforce site
in order to
make alot of money here! Just take a
look at those top 20% who are generating 80% of our
revenue---they don't have time to post!!!). If we can channel
the time spent on this board
during the day into
the placement business, our numbers will speak for
themselves and the street will recognize our potential.
consider what Bumble bb did to be an act
that hurt our people and we should
find out who they are and then get rid of them. They
cancer that we don't need. While others are
trying to remain positve and
individual is reading the board. Unbelievable!
I agree that internal memos should not be placed
in public domain. I would think that things like
this should be covered under the confidentially
agreement and be terms for dismissal.
I have seen
this 20/80 statement before. If this is actual,(not
just a belief), then it seems that we could reduce
staff by 80%, that a 20% cut in revenue, and suddenly
be very profitable.
Not trying to argue, just
want to know how valid this numbers actually are. I
work in the field and don't see this type of
I also know that when people leave their accounts
are handed off to someone else. How much of the
revenue generated by the "top 20 percent" is actually
at kforce, but have $$ tied to it. There have
been quite a few good recommendations coming from this
board - even if some of them are mixed in with the
anger/insults. Some, like myself don't work there...so not all
folks on this board are violating some sacred
The biggest recommendation is to get Dunkle to stop
running the company as if it is a small good-ol'- boy
friendship cirle. Make decisions based on the good of the
company and not his close circle of friends.
second is to cut out NOW all wasteful spending and
investing in areas that are NOT core to the real business
that kforce is in - like the kforce Consulting group,
perhaps the kforce.com (like the concept but the
implementation was so bad I think they will have to double their
investment by starting from scratch to get it working - and
they don't have the time right now).
suggestion is to pare down all non-profitable groups - get
them closed, get the fixed expenses off the
The fourth - get rid of the traveling internal
meetings, and redundant paperwork - give your recruiters
time to sell - not fill in papework.
- Marines make good workers, but not fast ramp ups
for this business - they don't have the background
and network for fast turnover.
Next - fix your
comp plan - if the individual doesn't have a direct
responsibility or duty in a particular placement, they shouldn't
get compensated for it.
Next - reduce the
layers of managers - for example, some said their were 4
managers in kforce Consulting from Florida for about 25 -
30 consultants - I heard this weekend it was more
like 7 - 8 (Manager A who reports to Director of
Strategic Consulting, who reports to VP Delivery + 4 -5
Managing Consultants who report to one of 2 - 3 Managers
of 3 regions in Fl, who in turn report to Director
of South region, who reports to VP Delivery, plus
all of the financial, networking, etc...
managers/Directors based in Tampa -- there simply too many cooks in
Finally - communicate to your
company and stockholders. The longer we are left to
guess...the more we may speculated in the wrong direction! I
haven't met Dunkle, but I hear he is a rather dynamic guy
- use that talent to talk to your people and your
These are just a few of the recommendations I have seen
on the board - they may not have been stated nicely
- but lets face it, they have been repeated over
and over with no one listening for months -- and they
are just basic business rules!
Why would you, obviously an employee or knowing
someone who is an employee put out that conference call
note? If it is meant for employees it should stay that
way, if it is meant for investors it would be noted as
such. If you hate your job or the direction of the
company so much, why would you stay there? They must be
doing something right otherwise you would have left
For 2nd time in 30 days company is the 2nd worst
loser (%)in NASDAQ.
#1 loser had CEO arrested
(SHOO)for SEC violations. Ours comes with virtually no
performance news. Maybe Dave warned wife first and major
investor firms second ... today...and employees and the
rest of us find out in conference call. Neatly planned
at 5pm. NASDAQ closed. Watch Out!!!