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FrozenI listerned to both CC's toady and also did some more digging into PCZ (PCA.to).I believe this is what PCZ also needed to give them the extra advantage of long life production. The north sea and eastern Canada will give them great CF for a few years, but this provides an base after that, not just for the sands, but also for the upgrading.I also like the acquisition of the rockies PCZ made last year. This is two good moves that have come very quickly to make them more attractive.The three companies presentations I have listerned to today (SU, PCZ, and CNQ) all have an ROCE of their new sands projects at 15% @ $about $29 wti.I feel badly that CWEI has gone the way of VPI, and I now post on Kevin's and Dan's private board. I have gaind a great deal of information from these boards, and I too am greatful.