What a fool. WILL not let a pipe line be build that creates jobs and help lower cost but pudhing the EPA to run up cost of every home own. Thanks Dumbo, your a fool!!!!
What every happen to the jackass that kick you in the head. Is your mommy still dressing you and feeding you?Can you say obama has added 5 trillion dollars in 3 years. He makes Bush look like a coupon clipper.
PEACHES:--What you say may be true if the bitumin were to be pumped in its' original state. It is not. I am sure you know the bitumin must and will be diluted to bring the viscosity to a point where it can be pumped.--BTW--I examined the Transcanada web page. Still NO MAP.---As I understand it Transcanada has agreed to move the pipeline about 100 miles EAST to avoid (go around) the Sandhills (aquifir). This is just what I suggested in my original post. I am still not thrilled with this solution because of the nature of the product.--I am concerned that the viscosity of the product (even if diluted)will require unusually high pressure to move the product which makes it much more prone to fractures & breaks. That is what has occurred in XL l.--For now we must await the company map showing the new proposed route. The company stated this will probably not be available till next October. Have a noce day. GL2U.
Embridge and Transcanada are both Calgary based pipeline companies, but to the best of my knowledge they are't related.
Full disclosure. I'm invested in several pipeline MLP's. Transcanada isn't one of them
NOW let's get this straight----For all the posts that have appeared, NO ONE has mentioned the existing pipeline. I have examined the map filed by Transcanada Pipelines. This map clearly shows THE EXISTING COMPLETED & OPERATING PIPELINE FROM HARDESTY, CANADA TO STEEL CITY, NEBRASKA. This is a 36' pipeline. It does NOT cross over the Sandhiills OR the aquifir.---The PROPOSED NEW pipeline runs from Hardestty, Canada to Steel City, Neb. YES, it runs between the SAME points of entry and terminus. The only diference is it is shorter AND runs in the area of the Sandhills AND the acquifir.--It too is a 36' pipeline. (Continued in next post)
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Obviously the safest route is the SAME route taken for the existing pipeline AND everyone obviously agreed that the existing route is the safest.Moreover, most likely Transcanada owns right-of-way rights over the route of the existing pipeline BECAUSE IT IS THEIR PIPELINE!!!--Since they are already operating a line a safe distance from the Sandhills & acquifir there is no reason why they can't run a line along side the existing pipeline AND AVOID ALL RISK AND CONTROVERSEY.--The proposed NEW pipeline runs DIAGONALLY fro Hardesty, Can. to Steel City, Neb.--IT IS SHORTER WITH MUCH MORE RISK--BUT THE RISK IS ALL OURS.---This whole issue is about MONEY--The additional cost of doing it right.
The map can be seen on Google--Just punch in Transcanada XL Pipeline. I can't believe anyone would risk damage to such a great aquifir (regardless of the level of rik) for the difference in the cost of construction.
You should do the reaeach before posting an opinion that doesn't represent the facts. If you would check, you would find that the officials in Nebraska do not want the pipeline go through the original planned area. A break in the pipeline would pollute an aquifer located in the area.
rdeitsch:---It is useless to attempt to reason w/ Obama posts.---Obamaisack & dowjones 123 are simply "haters". I suggest putting them on "ignore" as I am about to do.
The facts are that the whole industry is moving from coal to nat. gas which is plentiful. As I understand it SO will be converting 2 plants to gas & and installling "scrubbers" in a third plant.--Clearly this will be accomplished over several years and the ultimate costs will be passed on to the customers. This change should not impact SO earnings to any significant degree.---Have a nice day.
Danger to America:
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the Prince of the Fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.
SORRY FOR YOU:--You are either blind or failed to read the materials regarding the routing of the proposed pipeline.--Pipeline, oil & gas have a history of of leaking from various causes.--I have owned several pipeline companies and know they are plagued by leaks, explosions and other faults.---The route proposed by Transcanada Pipeline travels directly over the largest fresh water acquifir in the U.S.--This acquifir is the ONLY supply for a large part of the population in three states.---A LEAK OR EXPLOSION WOULD BE A DISASTER FOR THIS FRESH WATER SOURCE.---To re-route the pipeline would mean extending it about 100 miles further east before turning south.---IS THIS REALLY TOO MUCH TO ASK TO SAFEGUARD SUCH A PRECIOUS WATWR SUPPLY?? I THINK NOT!!!
Here are pipe lines all over America name one problem that we have had that would cause a normal person to tell America we don't need this we need to continue to pay billions of dollars each year to countries that haste us. Then there are the jobs.This president is simply clueless. How about being on the side off Americans.
If you'd researched this a little more you'd know that in mid November Trans Canada agreed with the state of Nebraska to move the route of Keystone XL away from sensitive areas. There is no need for the president to wait a year before making a decision on it.
This is the best thought out post I have seen in a long time. I always find it amazing that people never bother to attempt to find out the reason why certain decisions are made. They usually only think of the short term and not the long term picture. Some times the cheapest method can turn out to be the most costly. We always need to factor in what the real cost is.
When you get out of high school let us know. There 598 pipeline in the US.Why would his one been a problem? Which obama lie do you believe the one about the study we need when it has been studies for 1,5 years or obama lies about Green energy, Why do we keep finding green energy that keeps sending $'s obama's fund raiser? Grow up!
Thanks for your sane reply. (Although, the same data you have written is available; for those not too ideologically bent to read for themselves.) Again, thanks for saying what is quite clear about such projects, as well.