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  • close2mysecondmillion close2mysecondmillion Aug 21, 2004 10:07 AM Flag

    Herb G.

    Herb G. is on Bulls and Bears (FOX) right now
    here in Texas. I refuse to watch any program
    where H.G. is a participant.

    Does any one know the e-mail address of Bulls
    and Bears?

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    • doc - I defer to your informed interpretation of case law.

    • >> Statements by a writer in an e-mail or a letter are definitely statements of opinion.

      If I email your employer that you are stealing from the employer, and you are not, "opinion" has nothing to do with it, and is not protective.

      As for the poster who said I am clogging, or something, man oh man. This long-term NFI long has never felt much (indeed, any) sympathy for NFI critics until some of these responses!

    • docmon -- the quotation I copied here is neutral. One who publishes an e-mail, one who writes a letter, is a writer. Doesn't matter if the writer is employed, or by whom, or not employed at all. Stetements by a writer in an e-mail or a letter are definitely statements of opinion. Not facts.

      Whatever one's personal convictions about an issue, when you tell the world about them you're expressing an opinion. Saying something is true does not necessarily make it true.

      Per the SCUSA judgment, "there is no such thing as a false idea."

      For the record, I more or less agree with the characterizations several have made here about our favorite nuisance. So what? Even my opinion does not qualify as iron-clad fact.

    • <Were you the one who posted about my needing to know I am lying to be culpable??>

      Yup, if it involves a public figure, that's precisely what I'm saying.

      But, fear not.

      ATTENTION NFI LONGS:

      Look at this guy's "birthday." I suggest he just might be attempting to clog our board. I'm done with him.

    • >>usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/press/press08.htm:
      >>"Besides making distinctions between public and private figures, American courts also have ruled that various kinds of published information are generally immune from libel charges. For example, it is almost impossible for a writer to be found guilty of libel if the writing deals with opinions rather than facts. "Under the First Amendment, there is no such thing as a false idea," the Supreme Court said in a 1974 libel ruling.?

      Jeez louise. The discussion is NOT whether Greenberg is libeling NFI. It is whether a letter to a journalistic institution stating (not opinion) that one of their writers is a flat-out crook and on the take and in the fix and a paid thug and crook and basher is libelous. I am not saying it is in my opinion; it is the case, clear and simple. All I was suggesting is that it is best to be restrained in such email, rather than exposing oneself to a libel action and costing all of one's hard-earned gains made on NFI stock!

      It will be truly interesting to see whether there is a response from Fox to such a libel ... maybe showing, if the decision is left to him whether to pursue it, that old Herb is indeed on the take. THAT would be real news! We could certainly get some press out of it!

    • >>Greenberg is clearly a public figure.

      wrong, in the usual sense used in libel cases. OMG, again. Were you the one who posted about my needing to know I am lying to be culpable??

    • Remember, a million additional shares were dumped last month with the net effect of dropping the price $3 with the help of an dividend day that accounted for $1.35. It looks like just holding the price around $40 is an all out effort. I expect that the major shorts may look to unwind their possition as the bang for the buck and the effort and time requiered is getting out of hand.

    • The set-up is in place with DKS. We can see increased shorting activity with people buying in and supporting the price because the company is making increased earnings. It is doing well. Probably have a lot of stop-losses in place. Herb wrote one of his articles yesterday. I saw only the headline and I heard him smear DKS today on Foxnews.

      The Big Shorts are in place and it will just take the dumping of some shares to look like profit taking and some cover-up articles and more dumping and retail lemmings shorting so that BS can cover and then go long. Just want to create the volatility and do a quick turn around.

      If the shorts know that they can control the stock in the down direction, they don't need to worry about the other direction if they are picking a really good stock. Maybe they knew NFI was good and just shorted it to make more money in both directions. Put DKS on your watchlist and we can see when it happens. Maybe BS is long on NFI and he has left retail shorts hanging with nowhere to go.

      Still trying to figure out all the angles.

      M.

    • And HG doesn't deal in facts, so I guess he is off the hook. I'm still complaining to Fox on the basis of his opinions NOT being based on facts.

    • usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/press/press08.htm

      "Besides making distinctions between public and private figures, American courts also have ruled that various kinds of published information are generally immune from libel charges. For example, it is almost impossible for a writer to be found guilty of libel if the writing deals with opinions rather than facts. "Under the First Amendment, there is no such thing as a false idea," the Supreme Court said in a 1974 libel ruling.?

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