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Exelixis, Inc. Message Board

  • nomad_celcius12 nomad_celcius12 Dec 29, 2012 9:12 PM Flag

    Why you should run from EXEL...FAST

    While the HEDGE FUND LACKEYS are hard at work on this board pounding the table as to why Joe Q. Sixpack should be buying (when in reality the hedge fund is SHORTING), people remain clueless as to why the short interest keeps climbing and they continue to take the bait of the hedge fund lackeys ("i.e. "buysignalinvestments"). A 5 year old can understand why EXEL cannot and will not move higher for the foreseeable other words, it will remain "dead money":

    "This deal is very similar to an equity offering with warrants attached. It's just a pig with a different type of lipstick. Warrants are "sweeteners" in financing deals. In the case of the Exelixis financing, the convertible arm was a "sweetener" in lieu of warrants. Why are they called "sweeteners"? Because an investor can use the common equity portion of the deal to finance a portion or all of the warrants/convertible arm.

    In the case of common equity and warrant deals, you'll often see a fund take down, let's say, 5 million shares of XYZ common stock, and, also be apportioned 0.5 warrants for every common share. Oftentimes, a few weeks later, when the 13F filings come out at the end of the quarter, you'll notice that very same fund owns absolutely no shares of the common stock, despite the stock having barely moved. How is this possible? Because the fund likely used the common shares in a short position to pay for the warrants, making the warrant arm of the trade almost risk-free, or reduce the cost of the warrants greatly.

    Let's take a closer look at what investors in the Exelixis financing are likely doing: A hedge fund buys Exelixis common stock, in size, at $4.25 per share and has the ability to own more stock at $5.31 per share at some point in the future with the convertible arm. Therefore, any time Exelixis' stock price rises above $4.25 by a reasonable amount, the hedge fund can short the stock and use profits from that short sale to pay for the convertible stock.

    For instance, days, weeks or months later, if Exelixis' stock is trading at $5.50 and the hedge fund bought 10 million shares in the financing deal, it could short 10 million shares and "arbitrage" the profits. [Since the hedge fund owns 10 million shares at $4.25, it profits from the cost basis of the short versus its long position received in the deal at $4.25.] The fund then takes those profits and uses them to pay for the convertible arm in full, or reduces the cost basis of the convertible.

    Why do this? Easy, it's almost like free money. Furthermore, if an investor thinks Exelixis' cancer drug cabozantinib is going to be a billion-dollar blockbuster drug, then owning the stock at $5.31 -- or lower, cost-basis adjusted -- is a no brainer. And, if investors can get convertible shares for free, it's even better.

    When a company raises money through an equity sale with warrant or convertible notes as a sweetener, investors who aren't lucky enough to participate should run away from the stock - fast."

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    • Very lucid, well crafted comment. I'd wish others who might disagree would comment without the personal attacks, just a equally lucid and constructed counter-point. I don't see it coming frankly, and again being frank, you are partly to blame as you can't get above it all; finding joy in others misfortune, a terrible character trait. I hope you can get above it (I hope we all can including me).

      But here's a question for you. OK I get it, the technical nature of the all this. However, if like me, including others like Enabler here, believe in the science, believe that the coming results from all the on-going tests will be positive, and that a suitor is a reasonable likelihood, what happens to the stock PPS? Isn't that the one variable that will just trump all this technical stuff? If EXEL released a test result tomorrow that said, 'hey we cured cancer', or some big Pharma said ' we're buying EXEL', what then? So many people here bash those holding long term as if they're idiots. I don't get that. Are you saying the tests results will fail, that EXEL is not an attractive target for another company? In other words, most those holding long don't really care about the short term technicals, and why should we? Yet you continue to lambaste them for doing so. What am I missing?

    • Twisting the reality. If the buyer shorts his whole position, and holds Warrants, then he will become a buyer because his stock position is then flat while his warrant position will make money, only if the stock price rises. Thus the owner, if has done your scenario, is setting this up for an even bigger run and will want the stock to go up. You somehow forgot that part. Seems the only person who appears maybe to be a hedge fund front guy is you, but far more likely you are a small time holder of a short position. Stock goes up big in 2013, probably soon, which no doubt has you worried.LOL Better cover before your scenario plays out fully and the stock gaps up.

      Sentiment: Strong Sell

    • Lucky for EXEL the market is up huge this

    • Now you know why the stock price has been unable to rally past that $5.00-$5.50 mark. Now you know why that zone remains a 500 ton solid steel lid on the PPS and whenever it gets breached, it quickly falls back below. You want to "fight" the likes of Goldman Sachs? Errrr, you do that. Good luck with that ;-)

      Oh My...SEVEN thumbs down on this wonderfully laid out, factual piece on the pitfalls of the type of financing MM and his crew were talked in to by the likes of GS. Any guesses as to "WHO" on this board pressed that "thumbs down" button? Hedge Fund Lackys in full force here, gang! ;-)

      EXEL = dead money unless you are working for the hedge fund who remains in complete control. It's really just that simple.

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    • No, nothing has changed. The Hedge Fund Lackey crew would very much like to bury this topic of reality...but stay at the top it shall :-)

    • college boy, eh? sometimes you can know too much... things can tend to backfire, when they get too predictable...

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • "The song remains the same"

    • "This deal is very similar to an equity offering with warrants attached. It's just a pig with a different type of lipstick." First, the equity offering and the convert are separate transactions. The participants may have taken positions in both, but it was not required and I don't see any advantage to participating in both. That said, I do agee that as a result of the large debt/equity offering the stock is rangebound. At some point, fundamental prospects will outweigh the technical considerations and EXEL will break out of that range. You say "forseeable future," I don't really know how long it will take, but it could be a while.

      Don't confuse this with toxic financing, a situation in which a company pays back debt with market priced stock. In those scenarios, the lender has the incentive to drive down the price per share to end up with a larger percentage of the equity in the company. Still, I am not happy with the size of the financing. The participants have an obvious incentive to lock in profits any time we go over $5.31 and considering the size of the offering, I suspect there are still more than a few sell orders waiting for the stock to climb back into the $5.30's.

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