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  • truth_in_government truth_in_government Aug 11, 2011 8:43 PM Flag

    Intel internal roadmap from 2000.


    Zero percent actually happened in 2003, but it takes a long time to flush.

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    • How about this roadmap?

      Need to flush the stink coming from the antitrust activities conducted by the cartel which killed RDRAM. The SF jury in the AT will have a verdict on that for you very soon...

      MU - flussssssssssh. Stink gone....

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        "rdram.pdf" - First posted 5 October 2001.

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        23 September 2001.

        Alleged "realities"

        "As volumes ramp, 4i technology is introduced, and memory densities continue to increase,
        RDRAM costs will continue to decline."

        ---Costs didn't particularly decline but pricess fell due to excess inventory and lack of interest due to lack of benefit. Weeks later in October 2001:

        "Analysts told Electronic News Online that Santa Clara, Calif.-based Intel (nasdaq: INTC) has altered its road map, eliminating a P4 chipset supporting 4-bank RDRAM planned for mid-2002, code-named Tulloch."

        "4i" Dead.

        "Dual-channel RDRAM provides 3.2 GB/second of memory bandwidth to the system."

        --The alleged "myth" was that RDRAM had little performance benefit in many applications. The alleged "reality" ignores that and babbles about bandwidth. In fact a much less expensive Athlon and single channel DDR gave equal or better performance in many applications and Intel knew it.

        Allegedly to dispel the "myth" that memory makers weren't making RDRAM (they'd already made almost enough to ensure that they'd never get rid of it all) : “Japanese chip and PC maker Toshiba* Corp said on Friday it will more than
        triple its output of Rambus DRAM chips by September while cutting commodity DRAM production, and NEC
        Corp said it is eyeing a similar move.” Yahoo Finance, 2/9/2001

        --Y! FINANCE????!???!!!!11 How "authoritative". In December of the same year Toshiba had sold its U.S. DRAM and Flash ROM facilities to Micron (who didn't shut them down) and exited the commodity DRAM market.

        "RDRAM systems are inherently more expensive to build than DDR systems"

        --Not a myth, didn't need "dispelling".

        "RDRAM will not be available for upgrades in 2-3 years"

        --You call that an "upgrade"?

        "Intel does not collect royalties on RDRAM memory technology."

        --No, Rambus collected the royalties, they were just supposed to pass anything more than 2% through to Intel. Testimony under oath in San Fransisco has told us that Rambus collected more than 2% but didn't pass anything on to Intel. Double "myth", doubly "debunked".

        "As soon as Intel or others launch platforms supporting SDRAM or DDR, Intel will drop RDRAM"

        --They sure did. Like a hot potato with leprosy and drug resistant gonorrhea.


        If anyone bought any RDRAM based Pentium systems on the basis of that misleading (if not outright false) advertising (and if it indeed was produced by Intel) then it's a shame. If people sensibly stayed away and Intel lost business and reputation because of such nonsense, all the better. It seems like this was more a production of Rambus, parroting their earlier "dispelling myths" BS that they paid anandtech to "interview" them for.


        No to Rambus, and No to Intel domination!


        "Intel said to stop manufacturing RDRAM-based chipsets
        Charles Chou, Taipei; Christy Lee, DIGITIMES [Tuesday 20 May 2003]

        Intel recently decided to cease production of its 850E and 860 chipset, moving further away from the Rambus DRAM (RDRAM) standard, motherboard sources revealed. The 850E and 860 chipsets are Intel’s two RDRAM-based products, designed for the desktop and server/workstation sectors, respectively.

        The growing trend for low-price PCs has boosted the popularity of DDR memory, Intel’s local agents said. Overall, they expect Intel’s decision to have little impact on the market, as RDRAM chipsets primarily target the top-end market and Intel is expected to continue meeting client demand if required.

        Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS), currently the only other RDRAM chipset supplier, is unlikely to suffer much from Intel’s production disruption, industry observers noted. The Taiwanese chipset company launched its first RDRAM-supporting chipset, the R658, in July 2002 and is planning to introduce another, the R659, in the third quarter of this year.

        Once a strong supporter of the RDRAM standard, Intel has decided to gradually shift its products to the more popular and cheaper DDR platform in the past two years.

        After the release of its new 865 series (Springdale) chipsets on May 21, which will adopt dual-channel DDR400, Intel will move to the DDR2 platform for its next-generation Grantsdale chipsets. But following its Granite Peak program, which ensures transition stability for six quarters, Intel will not introduce DDR2-supporting products such as the Grantsdale chipsets until the second quarter of 2004. However, as DDR400 has only begun entering the market mainstream, module makers said that might still be too early for Intel to adopt DDR2.

        SiS and VIA Technologies also have plans to adopt the DDR2 standard."

        Belly up to the bar, Ramboids!

      • "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that:
        A. Respondent shall use reasonable efforts to ensure that any Product Roadmap that
        it discloses to any person will be, at the time it is disclosed, accurate and not
        misleading. When Respondent discloses a Product Roadmap to a third party,
        Respondent shall use reasonable efforts to respond accurately to any inquiries
        regarding changes in that Product Roadmap received from that third party during
        the one (1) year following such disclosure."

        Intel isn't on trial here, but many of their marketing brochures at the time weren't worth the paper they were printed on. Their "roadmaps" were totally bogus.

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